Hi Konstantine,

I would also like to include
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-13277 in 3.0 as a blocker. It
is a small fix, will submit PR today.

Thank you,

Rajini


On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 2:43 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Konstantine,
>
> I would like to propose https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/11300 as a
> blocker
> as well. The PR fixes KAFKA-13258/13259/13260. There are all very small but
> annoying issues. The PR is trivial.
>
> Regarding KAFKA-13266, the fix is quite simple, so low risk in my opinion.
> Jason
> will review it soon.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:27 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Konstantine,
> >
> > I will remove the final modifier for now.
> >
> > I added it because the removal of  the deprecated `close` overload could
> > lead to weird behavior if the no-args `close` was overridden (the
> > implementation of the no-arg `close` delegated to the removed `close`,
> but
> > that's no longer the case). However, I didn't realize `MockConsumer` was
> a
> > public class (which is a mistake imo since we tweak its behavior
> regularly
> > and sometimes add methods without a KIP).
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 1:46 AM Konstantine Karantasis <
> > kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Gary,
> > >
> > > Regarding KAFKA-13262, this might need a more detailed and strong
> > > justification to be considered as a blocker at this point in the
> release.
> > > But we are already moving towards RC2 because of the blockers mentioned
> > > above, so I'd be in favor of a PR that would revert the change that
> made
> > > this method final if we could get one this week. I'm not sure why the
> > > MockConsumer::close method was marked as final in
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/10438. The change is not included
> > in
> > > the description. Maybe it wasn't obvious that this class is used
> outside
> > > this project or maybe we thought we should discourage such use.
> > >
> > > Gary, is this the only change you are referring to?
> > > Ismael, I see you authored the PR originally. Any thoughts on the
> > suggested
> > > change?
> > >
> > > Konstantine
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM Konstantine Karantasis <
> > > kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Magnus,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for reporting the numbers.
> > > >
> > > > I agree that what you observe warrants further investigation, not so
> > much
> > > > because these are clear performance regressions but because they
> might
> > be
> > > > indications of underlying issues, as you noted. However, from a major
> > > > release standpoint I'd say that such preliminary evidence probably
> > falls
> > > > within the range of acceptable differences in the presence of major
> > > changes
> > > > and can be optimized over time in subsequent releases.
> > > >
> > > > Having said that, I'd take Israel's comment one step further and say
> > that
> > > > in order to be able to give more definitive answers it'd be good to
> > have
> > > a
> > > > description of the setup that is reproducible. Briefly, that would
> > > include
> > > > both the benchmark setup (specs etc) as well as the benchmark suite
> and
> > > the
> > > > way to run it (links to benchmark code including configurations and
> > > > description of how to run and reproduce).
> > > >
> > > > Small note that the attached plot is missing units on the x-axis
> > (y-axis
> > > I
> > > > assume is milliseconds from your description).
> > > >
> > > > Konstantine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 12:59 AM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Magnus,
> > > >>
> > > >> Please could you share the machine and network specs?
> > > >>
> > > >> How much CPU, RAM is available on each node?
> > > >>
> > > >> What JDK, JRE version are you using?
> > > >>
> > > >> What are your broker and client configuration values? Please could
> you
> > > >> share this info if possible?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:25 AM Magnus Edenhill <mag...@edenhill.se
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Konstantine,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Some findings from running 3.0.0-RC1 with the librdkafka test
> suite:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > * Compaction seems to take slightly longer to kick in when segment
> > > sizes
> > > >> >   exceed their threshold. (Used to take less than 20 seconds, now
> > > takes
> > > >> > 20..30 seconds.)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > * CreateTopic seems to take slightly longer to propagate through
> the
> > > >> > cluster,
> > > >> >   e.g., before a new topic is available in metadata from other
> > > brokers.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > * CreateTopics seems to take longer when the Admin request timeout
> > is
> > > >> set,
> > > >> >   looks like a plateau at 10 seconds:
> > > >> >   https://imgur.com/a/n6y76sj
> > > >> >
> > > >> > (This is a 3 broker cluster with identical configs between 2.8 and
> > > >> 3.0.0.)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Nothing critical, but could be an indication of regression so I
> > > thought
> > > >> I'd
> > > >> > mention it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > Magnus
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Den tis 31 aug. 2021 kl 17:51 skrev Konstantine Karantasis <
> > > >> > kkaranta...@apache.org>:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Small correction to my previous email.
> > > >> > > The actual link for public preview of the 3.0.0 blog post draft
> > is:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/kafka/?previewEntry=what-s-new-in-apache6
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > (see also the email thread with title: [DISCUSS] Please review
> the
> > > >> 3.0.0
> > > >> > > blog post)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Best,
> > > >> > > Konstantine
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 6:34 PM Konstantine Karantasis <
> > > >> > > kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This is the second release candidate for Apache Kafka 3.0.0.
> > > >> > > > It corresponds to a major release that includes many new
> > features,
> > > >> > > > including:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * The deprecation of support for Java 8 and Scala 2.12.
> > > >> > > > * Kafka Raft support for snapshots of the metadata topic and
> > > >> > > > other improvements in the self-managed quorum.
> > > >> > > > * Deprecation of message formats v0 and v1.
> > > >> > > > * Stronger delivery guarantees for the Kafka producer enabled
> by
> > > >> > default.
> > > >> > > > * Optimizations in OffsetFetch and FindCoordinator requests.
> > > >> > > > * More flexible Mirror Maker 2 configuration and deprecation
> of
> > > >> > > > Mirror Maker 1.
> > > >> > > > * Ability to restart a connector's tasks on a single call in
> > Kafka
> > > >> > > Connect.
> > > >> > > > * Connector log contexts and connector client overrides are
> now
> > > >> enabled
> > > >> > > > by default.
> > > >> > > > * Enhanced semantics for timestamp synchronization in Kafka
> > > Streams.
> > > >> > > > * Revamped public API for Stream's TaskId.
> > > >> > > > * Default serde becomes null in Kafka Streams and several
> > > >> > > > other configuration changes.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > You may read and review a more detailed list of changes in the
> > > 3.0.0
> > > >> > blog
> > > >> > > > post draft here:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/kafka/?previewEntry=what-s-new-in-apache6
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Release notes for the 3.0.0 release:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> >
> > >
> https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > *** Please download, test and vote by Wednesday, September 8,
> > 2021
> > > >> ***
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the
> > release:
> > > >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
> > > >> > > > https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Javadoc:
> > > >> > > > https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/javadoc/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 3.0 branch) is the 3.0.0 tag:
> > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/3.0.0-rc1
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Documentation:
> > > >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/30/documentation.html
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Protocol:
> > > >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/30/protocol.html
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > * Successful Jenkins builds for the 3.0 branch:
> > > >> > > > Unit/integration tests:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/blue/organizations/jenkins/Kafka%2Fkafka/detail/3.0/121/pipeline/
> > > >> > > > (only few flaky failures)
> > > >> > > > System tests:
> > > >> > > >
> https://jenkins.confluent.io/job/system-test-kafka/job/3.0/57/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > /**************************************
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > Konstantine
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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