Hi Daniel,

What you say makes sense.  Could you file a bug and put this info there so
that it's easier to track?

-Artem

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 8:34 AM Dániel Urbán <urb.dani...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I've been investigating some transaction related issues in a very
> problematic cluster. Besides finding some interesting issues, I had some
> ideas about how transactional producer behavior could be improved.
>
> My suggestion in short is: when the transactional producer encounters an
> error which doesn't necessarily mean that the in-flight request was
> processed (for example a client side timeout), the producer should not send
> an EndTxnRequest on abort, but instead it should bump the producer epoch.
>
> The long description about the issue I found, and how I came to the
> suggestion:
>
> First, the description of the issue. When I say that the cluster is "very
> problematic", I mean all kinds of different issues, be it infra (disks and
> network) or throughput (high volume producers without fine tuning).
> In this cluster, Kafka transactions are widely used by many producers. And
> in this cluster, partitions get "stuck" frequently (few times every week).
>
> The exact meaning of a partition being "stuck" is this:
>
> On the client side:
> 1. A transactional producer sends X batches to a partition in a single
> transaction
> 2. Out of the X batches, the last few get sent, but are timed out thanks to
> the delivery timeout config
> 3. producer.flush() is unblocked due to all batches being "finished"
> 4. Based on the errors reported in the producer.send() callback,
> producer.abortTransaction() is called
> 5. Then producer.close() is also invoked with a 5s timeout (this
> application does not reuse the producer instances optimally)
> 6. The transactional.id of the producer is never reused (it was random
> generated)
>
> On the partition leader side (what appears in the log segment of the
> partition):
> 1. The batches sent by the producer are all appended to the log
> 2. But the ABORT marker of the transaction was appended before the last 1
> or 2 batches of the transaction
>
> On the transaction coordinator side (what appears in the transaction state
> partition):
> The transactional.id is present with the Empty state.
>
> These happenings result in the following:
> 1. The partition leader handles the first batch after the ABORT marker as
> the first message of a new transaction of the same producer id + epoch.
> (LSO is blocked at this point)
> 2. The transaction coordinator is not aware of any in-progress transaction
> of the producer, thus never aborting the transaction, not even after the
> transaction.timeout.ms passes.
>
> This is happening with Kafka 2.5 running in the cluster, producer versions
> range between 2.0 and 2.6.
> I scanned through a lot of tickets, and I believe that this issue is not
> specific to these versions, and could happen with newest versions as well.
> If I'm mistaken, some pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Assuming that the issue could occur with any version, I believe this issue
> boils down to one oversight on the client side:
> When a request fails without a definitive response (e.g. a delivery
> timeout), the client cannot assume that the request is "finished", and
> simply abort the transaction. If the request is still in flight, and the
> EndTxnRequest, then the WriteTxnMarkerRequest gets sent and processed
> earlier, the contract is violated by the client.
> This could be avoided by providing more information to the partition
> leader. Right now, a new transactional batch signals the start of a new
> transaction, and there is no way for the partition leader to decide whether
> the batch is an out-of-order message.
> In a naive and wasteful protocol, we could have a unique transaction id
> added to each batch and marker, meaning that the leader would be capable of
> refusing batches which arrive after the control marker of the transaction.
> But instead of changing the log format and the protocol, we can achieve the
> same by bumping the producer epoch.
>
> Bumping the epoch has a similar effect to "changing the transaction id" -
> the in-progress transaction will be aborted with a bumped producer epoch,
> telling the partition leader about the producer epoch change. From this
> point on, any batches sent with the old epoch will be refused by the leader
> due to the fencing mechanism. It doesn't really matter how many batches
> will get appended to the log, and how many will be refused - this is an
> aborted transaction - but the out-of-order message cannot occur, and cannot
> block the LSO infinitely.
>
> My suggestion is, that the TransactionManager inside the producer should
> keep track of what type of errors were encountered by the batches of the
> transaction, and categorize them along the lines of "definitely completed"
> and "might not be completed". When the transaction goes into an abortable
> state, and there is at least one batch with "might not be completed", the
> EndTxnRequest should be skipped, and an epoch bump should be sent.
> As for what type of error counts as "might not be completed", I can only
> think of client side timeouts.
>
> I believe this is a relatively small change (only affects the client lib),
> but it helps in avoiding some corrupt states in Kafka transactions.
>
> Looking forward to your input. If it seems like a sane idea, I go ahead and
> submit a PR for it as well.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Daniel
>

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