Hi David, We have two blockers for ELR:
- KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in ELR mode - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the next few days. Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and KIP-1075 in Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and IBP_4_0_IV3 as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump those metadata versions to 4.1. best, Colin On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote: > Hi all, > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > > Thanks, > David > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Matthias, >> >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. >> >> Best, >> David >> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". >> > >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add a >> > WARN log for it via: >> > >> > - >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 >> > - >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d >> > >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option and >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when the >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. >> > >> > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 for the >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this ticket? >> > >> > >> > -Matthias >> > >> > >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan [1] >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the planned >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. >> > > >> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > David >> > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hey David >> > >> >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at flaky/failing >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them this >> > >> week. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> [1] >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Divij Vaidya >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot >> > >> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, >> > >>> >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must fix in >> > >>> 4.0. >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the suggested >> > >>> way >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks, >> > >>> David >> > >>> >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> hi DJ >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I have merged the PR ( >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 >> > >>>> ) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Best, >> > >>>> Chia-Ping >> > >>>> >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 下午3:53寫道: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be possible to >> > >>>> already >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin, >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small. >> > >>> Hence, I >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before the >> > >>> code >> > >>>>> freeze. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Best, >> > >>>>> David >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> hi David >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public >> > >>>> API >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> thanks, >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of >> > >>> your >> > >>>>>> KIPs >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release >> > >>>> branch >> > >>>>> on >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please >> > >>>>>> reachout >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs >> > >>> which >> > >>>>> are >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change >> > >>>> for >> > >>>>>> after >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way >> > >>>> back >> > >>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Luke: >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for >> > >>> Ismael. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 >> > >>>> (PreVote) >> > >>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>> two >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC >> > >>>>>> includes >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new >> > >>> internal >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method >> > >>>>> deprecation >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now >> > >>>>> accepted >> > >>>>>>>> and I >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to >> > >>>> Log4j2. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now >> > >>>> almost >> > >>>>>> ready. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above >> > >>> into >> > >>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not >> > >>> contain >> > >>>>> any >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs >> > >>>> too. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 >> > >>>> to >> > >>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after >> > >>> postpone >> > >>>>>> doing >> > >>>>>>>> it >> > >>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from >> > >>>> ConfgCommand >> > >>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>> avoid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze >> > >>>>>> deadline >> > >>>>>>>> is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I >> > >>>> will >> > >>>>>> wait >> > >>>>>>>>>> until >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status >> > >>>> of >> > >>>>>> your >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec >> > >>>>> 11th. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030 >> > >>>>>>>> but >> > >>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? >> > >>>>> Ideally, >> > >>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>> should >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot >> > >>> do >> > >>>>>> it, we >> > >>>>>>>> may >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa >> > >>>> Selenge >> > >>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has >> > >>>> now >> > >>>>>>>> passed >> > >>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension >> > >>> anymore. >> > >>>>>> Can we >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa >> > >>>>> Selenge < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional >> > >>>>>> extension for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via >> > >>> AdminClient. >> > >>>>>> This is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, >> > >>>>>> because >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no >> > >>>> way >> > >>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>> list >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut >> > >>>>>> down/fenced. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a >> > >>>>>> month and >> > >>>>>>>>>> has >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also >> > >>>> have >> > >>>>>>>> raised a >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 >> > >>>> and >> > >>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to >> > >>> include >> > >>>>> it >> > >>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 >> > >>> to >> > >>>>>> make >> > >>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> >> > >>>>>>>> ? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij >> > >>> Vaidya >> > >>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional >> > >>>> extension >> > >>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add >> > >>>> some >> > >>>>>> new >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward >> > >>>>>> incompatible >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could >> > >>> release >> > >>>>>> them >> > >>>>>>>> would >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last >> > >>>>> minute >> > >>>>>> very >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of >> > >>>> Kafka >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP >> > >>>> for >> > >>>>>> 4.0 >> > >>>>>>>> even >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David >> > >>> Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP >> > >>>>>> freeze is >> > >>>>>>>> on >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen >> > >>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash >> > >>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to >> > >>>> the >> > >>>>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open >> > >>> a >> > >>>>>> voting >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke >> > >>> Chen >> > >>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release >> > >>>> plan. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa >> > >>>>> Huang >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release >> > >>>>> manager >> > >>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) >> > >>> listed, >> > >>>>>> can I >> > >>>>>>>> edit >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM >> > >>> Colin >> > >>>>>> McCabe < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 >> > >>>> is. >> > >>>>>>>> November >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should >> > >>> make >> > >>>> it >> > >>>>>> into >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is >> > >>> ready >> > >>>>> by >> > >>>>>>>> feature >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, >> > >>>> TengYao >> > >>>>>> Chi >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the >> > >>> inclusion >> > >>>>> of >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I >> > >>>>>> believe it >> > >>>>>>>>>> will >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer >> > >>>> and >> > >>>>>> Kafka >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this >> > >>>>> addition. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> >> > >>> 於 >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe >> > >>>> there's >> > >>>>> a >> > >>>>>> JIRA >> > >>>>>>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, >> > >>>> David >> > >>>>>> Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does >> > >>> it >> > >>>>>> include >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM >> > >>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal >> > >>>>>> tasks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by >> > >>>>> January. >> > >>>>>>>> (Well >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, >> > >>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think >> > >>> that >> > >>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>> should >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we >> > >>> should >> > >>>>>> ensure >> > >>>>>>>> that >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by >> > >>>> code >> > >>>>>>>> freeze. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal >> > >>> with >> > >>>>>> all the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may >> > >>>>>> already >> > >>>>>>>> have >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM >> > >>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>> Chen < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to >> > >>>> me. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a >> > >>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release >> > >>>> criteria >> > >>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>> it? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is >> > >>>> like, >> > >>>>>> when >> > >>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK >> > >>>>> removal >> > >>>>>>>> tasks >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest >> > >>> of >> > >>>>>> codes in >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related >> > >>>> to >> > >>>>> ZK >> > >>>>>>>> open >> > >>>>>>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using >> > >>> time-based >> > >>>>>>>> management >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" >> > >>> tasks >> > >>>>> and >> > >>>>>>>> track >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss >> > >>>>> with >> > >>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM >> > >>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release >> > >>> plan >> > >>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>> Apache >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me >> > >>>>> know >> > >>>>>> what >> > >>>>>>>>>> you >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if >> > >>>> you >> > >>>>>> could >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I >> > >>>> took >> > >>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>> list >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure >> > >>> that >> > >>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>> list is >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at >> > >>> 5:02 AM >> > >>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>> Chen >> > >>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge >> > >>>> change >> > >>>>>>>> release, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release >> > >>> manager?) >> > >>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>> help on >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at >> > >>>> 1:33 AM >> > >>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at >> > >>>> 10:11, >> > >>>>>> Chris >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, >> > >>> 13:07 >> > >>>>> José >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for >> > >>> volunteering >> > >>>>>> David! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com >> > >>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for >> > >>>>>> volunteering! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at >> > >>>>>> 19:27, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 >> > >>> at >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David >> > >>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, >> > >>> 2024 >> > >>>> at >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache >> > >>>> Kafka >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > 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