Hey Colin -- yes, we have a blocker to bump the stable metadata versions https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18611. I can open that today or so.
Justine On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:55 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi David, > > We have two blockers for ELR: > > - KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in ELR mode > - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues > > They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the next few > days. > > Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and KIP-1075 in > Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and IBP_4_0_IV3 > as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump those > metadata versions to 4.1. > > best, > Colin > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached > > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers. > > Please raise any new blockers in this thread. > > > > Thanks, > > David > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Matthias, > >> > >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested. > >> > >> Best, > >> David > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> > > >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done". > >> > > >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to > >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add a > >> > WARN log for it via: > >> > > >> > - > >> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82 > >> > - > >> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d > >> > > >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option and > >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when the > >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something. > >> > > >> > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 for > the > >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this ticket? > >> > > >> > > >> > -Matthias > >> > > >> > > >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote: > >> > > Hi all, > >> > > > >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan > [1] > >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept > >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the > planned > >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a > >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything. > >> > > > >> > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > David > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya < > divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hey David > >> > >> > >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at > flaky/failing > >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them > this week. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [1] > >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Divij Vaidya > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must > fix in 4.0. > >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the > suggested way > >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks, > >> > >>> David > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai < > chia7...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> hi DJ > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> I have merged the PR ( > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2 > >> > >>>> ) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Best, > >> > >>>> Chia-Ping > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五 > 下午3:53寫道: > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, > >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be > possible to > >> > >>>> already > >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests? > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin, > >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small. > >> > >>> Hence, I > >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before > the > >> > >>> code > >> > >>>>> freeze. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping, > >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>> David > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai < > chia7...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> hi David > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported > public > >> > >>>> API > >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is > necessary? > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> thanks, > >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks, > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks > of > >> > >>> your > >> > >>>>>> KIPs > >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the > release > >> > >>>> branch > >> > >>>>> on > >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, > please > >> > >>>>>> reachout > >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs > >> > >>> which > >> > >>>>> are > >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin: > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me > that > >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large > change > >> > >>>> for > >> > >>>>>> after > >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have > a way > >> > >>>> back > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij: > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Luke: > >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for > >> > >>> Ismael. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe < > cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks, > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 > >> > >>>> (PreVote) > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>> two > >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote > RPC > >> > >>>>>> includes > >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze > >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new > >> > >>> internal > >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective > >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method > >> > >>>>> deprecation > >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew > >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now > >> > >>>>> accepted > >> > >>>>>>>> and I > >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi < > >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to > >> > >>>> Log4j2. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now > >> > >>>> almost > >> > >>>>>> ready. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 > 週二 > >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen < > >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above > >> > >>> into > >> > >>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not > >> > >>> contain > >> > >>>>> any > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs > >> > >>>> too. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after > >> > >>> postpone > >> > >>>>>> doing > >> > >>>>>>>> it > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from > >> > >>>> ConfgCommand > >> > >>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>> avoid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > >> > >>>>>> deadline > >> > >>>>>>>> is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I > >> > >>>> will > >> > >>>>>> wait > >> > >>>>>>>>>> until > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status > >> > >>>> of > >> > >>>>>> your > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec > >> > >>>>> 11th. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for > >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030 > >> > >>>>>>>> but > >> > >>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it? > >> > >>>>> Ideally, > >> > >>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>> should > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot > >> > >>> do > >> > >>>>>> it, we > >> > >>>>>>>> may > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa > >> > >>>> Selenge > >> > >>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has > >> > >>>> now > >> > >>>>>>>> passed > >> > >>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension > >> > >>> anymore. > >> > >>>>>> Can we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa > >> > >>>>> Selenge < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > >> > >>>>>> extension for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via > >> > >>> AdminClient. > >> > >>>>>> This is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > >> > >>>>>> because > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no > >> > >>>> way > >> > >>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>> list > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > >> > >>>>>> down/fenced. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > >> > >>>>>> month and > >> > >>>>>>>>>> has > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also > >> > >>>> have > >> > >>>>>>>> raised a > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3]. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 > >> > >>>> and > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to > >> > >>> include > >> > >>>>> it > >> > >>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 > >> > >>> to > >> > >>>>>> make > >> > >>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io> > >> > >>>>>>>> ? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij > >> > >>> Vaidya > >> > >>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional > >> > >>>> extension > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add > >> > >>>> some > >> > >>>>>> new > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > >> > >>>>>> incompatible > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could > >> > >>> release > >> > >>>>>> them > >> > >>>>>>>> would > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last > >> > >>>>> minute > >> > >>>>>> very > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of > >> > >>>> Kafka > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP > >> > >>>> for > >> > >>>>>> 4.0 > >> > >>>>>>>> even > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David > >> > >>> Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > >> > >>>>>> freeze is > >> > >>>>>>>> on > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen > >> > >>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to > >> > >>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open > >> > >>> a > >> > >>>>>> voting > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke > >> > >>> Chen > >> > >>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release > >> > >>>> plan. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa > >> > >>>>> Huang > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release > >> > >>>>> manager > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) > >> > >>> listed, > >> > >>>>>> can I > >> > >>>>>>>> edit > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM > >> > >>> Colin > >> > >>>>>> McCabe < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 > >> > >>>> is. > >> > >>>>>>>> November > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should > >> > >>> make > >> > >>>> it > >> > >>>>>> into > >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is > >> > >>> ready > >> > >>>>> by > >> > >>>>>>>> feature > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, > >> > >>>> TengYao > >> > >>>>>> Chi > >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the > >> > >>> inclusion > >> > >>>>> of > >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > >> > >>>>>> believe it > >> > >>>>>>>>>> will > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer > >> > >>>> and > >> > >>>>>> Kafka > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this > >> > >>>>> addition. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > >>> 於 > >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe > >> > >>>> there's > >> > >>>>> a > >> > >>>>>> JIRA > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, > >> > >>>> David > >> > >>>>>> Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does > >> > >>> it > >> > >>>>>> include > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM > >> > >>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > >> > >>>>>> tasks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by > >> > >>>>> January. > >> > >>>>>>>> (Well > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, > >> > >>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think > >> > >>> that > >> > >>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>> should > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we > >> > >>> should > >> > >>>>>> ensure > >> > >>>>>>>> that > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by > >> > >>>> code > >> > >>>>>>>> freeze. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal > >> > >>> with > >> > >>>>>> all the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > >> > >>>>>> already > >> > >>>>>>>> have > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM > >> > >>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to > >> > >>>> me. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > >> > >>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release > >> > >>>> criteria > >> > >>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>> it? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is > >> > >>>> like, > >> > >>>>>> when > >> > >>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK > >> > >>>>> removal > >> > >>>>>>>> tasks > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest > >> > >>> of > >> > >>>>>> codes in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>>> ZK > >> > >>>>>>>> open > >> > >>>>>>>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper` > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using > >> > >>> time-based > >> > >>>>>>>> management > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" > >> > >>> tasks > >> > >>>>> and > >> > >>>>>>>> track > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss > >> > >>>>> with > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM > >> > >>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release > >> > >>> plan > >> > >>>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>> Apache > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me > >> > >>>>> know > >> > >>>>>> what > >> > >>>>>>>>>> you > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if > >> > >>>> you > >> > >>>>>> could > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I > >> > >>>> took > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> list > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure > >> > >>> that > >> > >>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> list is > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > >> > >>> 5:02 AM > >> > >>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>> Chen > >> > >>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge > >> > >>>> change > >> > >>>>>>>> release, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release > >> > >>> manager?) > >> > >>>>> to > >> > >>>>>>>> help on > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at > >> > >>>> 1:33 AM > >> > >>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at > >> > >>>> 10:11, > >> > >>>>>> Chris > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > >> > >>> 13:07 > >> > >>>>> José > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for > >> > >>> volunteering > >> > >>>>>> David! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > >> > >>>>>> volunteering! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > >> > >>>>>> 19:27, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 > >> > >>> at > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David > >> > >>>> for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering! > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, > >> > >>> 2024 > >> > >>>> at > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache > >> > >>>> Kafka > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > >> > 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