Hey Colin -- yes, we have a blocker to bump the stable metadata versions
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18611. I can open that today or
so.

Justine

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 9:55 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> We have two blockers for ELR:
>
> - KAFKA-18635: Re-enable the unclean shutdown detection when in ELR mode
> - KAFKA-18634: Fix ELR metadata version issues
>
> They're both pretty small and I think we can get them in in the next few
> days.
>
> Separately from that, is the intention to ship KIP-890 and KIP-1075 in
> Apache Kafka 4.0? If so, we will need to mark IBP_4_0_IV2 and IBP_4_0_IV3
> as stable metadata versions. If not, of course, we should bump those
> metadata versions to 4.1.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 03:55, David Jacot wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are now past the code freeze. We have still a few blockers attached
> > to 4.0. I will review those to ensure that they are real blockers.
> > Please raise any new blockers in this thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Matthias,
> >>
> >> Thanks for catching that! I fixed the release plan as you suggested.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> David
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 3:46 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think KIP-1087 is actually "done".
> >> >
> >> > The linked Jira ticket might just be wrong. The KIP proposes to
> >> > deprecate `--intermediate-topic` options in AK 4.0, and we did add a
> >> > WARN log for it via:
> >> >
> >> >   -
> >> >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/05696037d330e5e355d62cb1b977bac9df78db82
> >> >   -
> >> >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/a9eb06bbdf9b3d14736223edc1e3650677e2fe6d
> >> >
> >> > The linked open Jira of the KIP is actually to *remove* the option and
> >> > it is of course for 5.0. For KIPs we usually call them "done" when the
> >> > deprecation ships, not after we finally remove something.
> >> >
> >> > Should we link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12823 for
> the
> >> > KIP instead, as the code for the warn log was merged with this ticket?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Matthias
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 12/18/24 5:06 AM, David Jacot wrote:
> >> > > Hi all,
> >> > >
> >> > > As we are past the feature freeze, I have updated the release plan
> [1]
> >> > > and moved the non-ready KIPs to the postpones section. I have kept
> >> > > KIP-1030, KIP-996, KIP-966, KIP-896 and KIP-724 for now in the
> planned
> >> > > KIPs. Those KIPs are either minor or have exceptions. Please take a
> >> > > look at the plan and let me know if I missed anything.
> >> > >
> >> > > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > David
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:50 PM Divij Vaidya <
> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hey David
> >> > >>
> >> > >> About KIP 1030 [1], we have 4 PRs open. They are stuck at
> flaky/failing
> >> > >> tests which the author is fixing. We will target to merge them
> this week.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> [1]
> >> > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Divij Vaidya
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM David Jacot
> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Regarding KAFKA-18225, I agree that it is an issue that we must
> fix in 4.0.
> >> > >>> I see that Colin's already commented in the Jira about the
> suggested way
> >> > >>> forward. I agree with the proposal.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks,
> >> > >>> David
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:22 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> chia7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> hi DJ
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I have merged the PR (
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/b37b89c6686f5270b37d39cf3144bccb4f5bceb2
> >> > >>>> )
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> will keep testing the related e2e
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Best,
> >> > >>>> Chia-Ping
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年12月13日 週五
> 下午3:53寫道:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping,
> >> > >>>>> Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be
> possible to
> >> > >>>> already
> >> > >>>>> merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi Calvin,
> >> > >>>>> Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small.
> >> > >>> Hence, I
> >> > >>>>> have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before
> the
> >> > >>> code
> >> > >>>>> freeze.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> >> > >>>>> Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> chia7...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> hi David
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported
> public
> >> > >>>> API
> >> > >>>>>> in KRaft mode.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is
> necessary?
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> thanks,
> >> > >>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks
> of
> >> > >>> your
> >> > >>>>>> KIPs
> >> > >>>>>>> must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the
> release
> >> > >>>> branch
> >> > >>>>> on
> >> > >>>>>>> Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it,
> please
> >> > >>>>>> reachout
> >> > >>>>>>> to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs
> >> > >>> which
> >> > >>>>> are
> >> > >>>>>>> not ready from the release plan on Monday too.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Alyssa/Colin:
> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me
> that
> >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large
> change
> >> > >>>> for
> >> > >>>>>> after
> >> > >>>>>>> the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have
> a way
> >> > >>>> back
> >> > >>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>> case we cannot make it or if we discover issues?
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Andrew/Divij:
> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks!
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Luke:
> >> > >>>>>>> Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for
> >> > >>> Ismael.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Hey David and folks,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996
> >> > >>>> (PreVote)
> >> > >>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>> two
> >> > >>>>>>>>> phases in order to make the 4.0 release.
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote
> RPC
> >> > >>>>>> includes
> >> > >>>>>>>>> PreVote field) by feature freeze
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new
> >> > >>> internal
> >> > >>>>>>>> Prospective
> >> > >>>>>>>>> QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> +1 frorm me. What do you think David?
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield <
> >> > >>>>>>>>> andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method
> >> > >>>>> deprecation
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrew
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now
> >> > >>>>> accepted
> >> > >>>>>>>> and I
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> have updated the release plan with the KIP.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <
> >> > >>>> kiting...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to
> >> > >>>> Log4j2.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now
> >> > >>>> almost
> >> > >>>>>> ready.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m currently working on it.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日
> 週二
> >> > >>>>>> 下午4:23寫道:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Luke!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <
> >> > >>>> show...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking the KIPs.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above
> >> > >>> into
> >> > >>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and confirmed it is already in accepted status.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <
> >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the release plan and it does not
> >> > >>> contain
> >> > >>>>> any
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs
> >> > >>>> too.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot <
> >> > >>>>>>>> david.ja...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi PoAn/Ziming,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding those to the release plan!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dengziming1...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011
> >> > >>>> to
> >> > >>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after
> >> > >>> postpone
> >> > >>>>>> doing
> >> > >>>>>>>> it
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from
> >> > >>>> ConfgCommand
> >> > >>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>> avoid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> making
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our code dirty.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ziming
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze
> >> > >>>>>> deadline
> >> > >>>>>>>> is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> today.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I
> >> > >>>> will
> >> > >>>>>> wait
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> until
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile the final list. Please update the status
> >> > >>>> of
> >> > >>>>>> your
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIPs.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec
> >> > >>>>> 11th.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dja...@confluent.io>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that we can make a small exception for
> >> > >>>>>> KIP-1030
> >> > >>>>>>>> but
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wait
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long. How long do you need to close it?
> >> > >>>>> Ideally,
> >> > >>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> should
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aim
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot
> >> > >>> do
> >> > >>>>>> it, we
> >> > >>>>>>>> may
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss it again. Please keep me posted.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tina,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa
> >> > >>>> Selenge
> >> > >>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has
> >> > >>>> now
> >> > >>>>>>>> passed
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting so
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not need an exceptional extension
> >> > >>> anymore.
> >> > >>>>>> Can we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> please
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release plan?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa
> >> > >>>>> Selenge <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsele...@redhat.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional
> >> > >>>>>> extension for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1073
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via
> >> > >>> AdminClient.
> >> > >>>>>> This is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster,
> >> > >>>>>> because
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no
> >> > >>>> way
> >> > >>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>> list
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to unregister once they are shut
> >> > >>>>>> down/fenced.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a
> >> > >>>>>> month and
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> has
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 2
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also
> >> > >>>> have
> >> > >>>>>>>> raised a
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> draft
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation [3].
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1
> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for review, it would be great to
> >> > >>> include
> >> > >>>>> it
> >> > >>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divij,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0
> >> > >>> to
> >> > >>>>>> make
> >> > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> kafka
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until
> >> > >>>>>> v5.0.0.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <
> >> > >>>>>> dja...@confluent.io>
> >> > >>>>>>>> ?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij
> >> > >>> Vaidya
> >> > >>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional
> >> > >>>> extension
> >> > >>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1030
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aims
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add
> >> > >>>> some
> >> > >>>>>> new
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> constraints
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward
> >> > >>>>>> incompatible
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could
> >> > >>> release
> >> > >>>>>> them
> >> > >>>>>>>> would
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last
> >> > >>>>> minute
> >> > >>>>>> very
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> close
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of
> >> > >>>> Kafka
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> maintenance
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this KIP
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP
> >> > >>>> for
> >> > >>>>>> 4.0
> >> > >>>>>>>> even
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> after
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divij Vaidya
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David
> >> > >>> Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP
> >> > >>>>>> freeze is
> >> > >>>>>>>> on
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 20th
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one week from today.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen
> >> > >>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal
> >> > >>>>>>>> Chandraprakash
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to
> >> > >>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open
> >> > >>> a
> >> > >>>>>> voting
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> thread
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamal
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke
> >> > >>> Chen
> >> > >>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release
> >> > >>>> plan.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa
> >> > >>>>> Huang
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release
> >> > >>>>> manager
> >> > >>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 4.0!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote)
> >> > >>> listed,
> >> > >>>>>> can I
> >> > >>>>>>>> edit
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM
> >> > >>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>> McCabe <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0
> >> > >>>> is.
> >> > >>>>>>>> November
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should
> >> > >>> make
> >> > >>>> it
> >> > >>>>>> into
> >> > >>>>>>>> 4.0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is
> >> > >>> ready
> >> > >>>>> by
> >> > >>>>>>>> feature
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze.)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32,
> >> > >>>> TengYao
> >> > >>>>>> Chi
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the
> >> > >>> inclusion
> >> > >>>>> of
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1092
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I
> >> > >>>>>> believe it
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> will
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer
> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >>>>>> Kafka
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Streams
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this
> >> > >>>>> addition.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> > >>> 於
> >> > >>>>>>>> 2024年10月11日
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 週五
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe
> >> > >>>> there's
> >> > >>>>> a
> >> > >>>>>> JIRA
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11,
> >> > >>>> David
> >> > >>>>>> Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does
> >> > >>> it
> >> > >>>>>> include
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --zookeeper
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g.
> >> > >>>>>> kafka-configs)?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM
> >> > >>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>> McCabe <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal
> >> > >>>>>> tasks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Progress
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by
> >> > >>>>> January.
> >> > >>>>>>>> (Well
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55,
> >> > >>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think
> >> > >>> that
> >> > >>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>> should
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we
> >> > >>> should
> >> > >>>>>> ensure
> >> > >>>>>>>> that
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ZK
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by
> >> > >>>> code
> >> > >>>>>>>> freeze.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplest
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal
> >> > >>> with
> >> > >>>>>> all the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may
> >> > >>>>>> already
> >> > >>>>>>>> have
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM
> >> > >>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>> Chen <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to
> >> > >>>> me.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a
> >> > >>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> without
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZK,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release
> >> > >>>> criteria
> >> > >>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>> it?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is
> >> > >>>> like,
> >> > >>>>>> when
> >> > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK
> >> > >>>>> removal
> >> > >>>>>>>> tasks
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>>>>> codes in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> later
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related
> >> > >>>> to
> >> > >>>>> ZK
> >> > >>>>>>>> open
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The
> >> > >>>>>> `--zookeeper`
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using
> >> > >>> time-based
> >> > >>>>>>>> management
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v4.0,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do"
> >> > >>> tasks
> >> > >>>>> and
> >> > >>>>>>>> track
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss
> >> > >>>>> with
> >> > >>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
> >> > >>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>> Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release
> >> > >>> plan
> >> > >>>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>> Apache
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me
> >> > >>>>> know
> >> > >>>>>> what
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> you
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if
> >> > >>>> you
> >> > >>>>>> could
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I
> >> > >>>> took
> >> > >>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>> list
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure
> >> > >>> that
> >> > >>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>> list is
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> >> > >>> 5:02 AM
> >> > >>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>> Chen
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge
> >> > >>>> change
> >> > >>>>>>>> release,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release
> >> > >>> manager?)
> >> > >>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>> help on
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at
> >> > >>>> 1:33 AM
> >> > >>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCabe
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at
> >> > >>>> 10:11,
> >> > >>>>>> Chris
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egerton
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> >> > >>> 13:07
> >> > >>>>> José
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Armando
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> García
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sancio
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for
> >> > >>> volunteering
> >> > >>>>>> David!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> >> > >>>>>> 11:56 AM
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arthur <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at
> >> > >>>>>> 11:48 AM
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satish
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duggana <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> >> > >>>>>> volunteering!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at
> >> > >>>>>> 19:27,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lianet
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024,
> >> > >>>>>> 9:54 a.m.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justine
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olshan
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024
> >> > >>> at
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6:36 AM
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tsai
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David
> >> > >>>> for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 於
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteering!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23,
> >> > >>> 2024
> >> > >>>> at
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3:11 PM
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacot
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache
> >> > >>>> Kafka
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple
> >> > >>>> of
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat*
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source
> >> > >>>> Engineering
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven*
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> josep.p...@aiven.io
> >> > >>>>>   |
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +491715557497
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland
> >> > >>>>> GmbH*
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7,
> >> > >>>>> 10117
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlin
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer:
> >> > >>>> Oskari
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saarenmaa,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannu
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson,
> >> > >>>>> Kenneth
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chen
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottenburg,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HRB
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 209739
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
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