Hi David,
I have file a patch for quickstart link issue which mentioned by Lianet.
https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/670

It should fix the issue.

Best,
TengYao.

Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月13日 週四 上午8:17寫道:

> Hey David,
>
> Regarding the quickstart it's indeed a linking issue: if we go to the 4.0
> documentation on https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html and then
> click on the quickstart linked on the introduction (on "To get hands-on
> experience with Kafka, follow the Quickstart
> <https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart>."), that's how we land on the
> outdated quickstart (but the one on the 4.0 doc left menu is OK).
>
> Also I filed the jira to fix the test issue for the next release (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18973)
>
> With that it looks good to me.
>
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Thanks for driving this!
> Lianet
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 7:27 PM Justine Olshan
> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> > Let me first say this is so nice to have a single java/scala version in
> the
> > release artifacts! It makes this validation smoother!
> >
> > I also:
> > * Checked the signatures and checksums of the artifacts
> > * Used the pre-built tar to create a cluster, upgrade and downgrade
> > transaction version, run some simple transactional benches and verify the
> > transactions worked as expected
> > * Browsed the api documentation, javadoc
> > * Took a quick look at the tests and other jobs you ran as part of the
> > release -- +1 to not worrying about the VerificationTool test, last I
> > looked at it, the tool was too slow to catch any replication lag, so it
> > always failed.
> >
> > +1 (binding) from me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justine
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:22 PM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > I did the following:
> > >
> > > - checked the signatures and checksums of all the release artifacts
> > > - built from the source artifacts and ran into the same issue Lianet
> > > described. After that I built from source using the 4.0.0-rc3 tag.
> > > - ran unit and integration tests
> > > - ran through the Kafka quickstart with kafka and kafka-native docker
> > > images as well as with broker started from downloaded archive
> > > - ran through Streams quickstart with kafka and kafka-native docker
> > > images as well as with broker started from downloaded archive
> > >
> > > All good, except:
> > >
> > > - the issue building from the source artifact)!
> > > - there are some linking issue in the docs as mentioned in my previous
> > > e-mail
> > >
> > > Overall, +1 (binding)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Bruno
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12.03.25 21:14, Bruno Cadonna wrote:
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > I ran into the same issues as Lianet regading the quickstart. I
> believe
> > > > there is a linking issue.
> > > >
> > > > If I go to
> > > >
> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > >
> > > > and then I click on "get started" -> "quickstart" I end up at the 3.9
> > > > version. The 4.0 version can be found under
> > > >
> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation/#quickstart
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Bruno
> > > >
> > > > On 12.03.25 20:30, David Jacot wrote:
> > > >> Hi Lianet,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> Let’s file a Jira for that test. This is not a blocker but we should
> > > >> fix it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regarding the quick start, are you sure that you used the staged
> > > >> documentation for 4.0? Here:
> > > >> https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> David
> > > >>
> > > >> Le mer. 12 mars 2025 à 20:07, Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi David,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've tested the RC3 and this is what I've done so far and what I've
> > > >>> found:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - build from src kafka-4.0.0-src.tgz with Java 17
> > > >>> - run unit test and integration tests
> > > >>> - run client examples from the examples module (consume/produce/tx)
> > > >>> - build clients with Java 11. Run client unit tests, integration
> > > >>> tests, and
> > > >>> examples as above
> > > >>> - Followed the quickstart guide to start a broker
> > > >>> - Played with command line tools to consume, produce, manage topics
> > > >>> - Tried out the new regex validator tool
> > > >>>
> > > >>> All good with the above steps, with these findings:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - When running unit and integration tests on the downloaded
> > > >>> kafka-4.0.0-src.tgz, I got some failures that recovered as TengYao
> > > >>> mentioned, but I noticed a persistent failure locally, in
> > > >>> MetadataSchemaCheckerToolTest.testVerifyEvolutionGit. This test was
> > > >>> added
> > > >>> in 4.0, and requires a git repo setup, so fails with:
> > > >>> *java.lang.RuntimeException:
> > > >>> Invalid directory, need to be within a Git repository*. This means
> > that
> > > >>> building and running the tests straight from a downloaded kafka src
> > > >>> folder
> > > >>> doesn't work anymore. It used to work with previous versions (ie.
> > 3.9,
> > > I
> > > >>> checked again just in case), because this test didn't exist. If
> this
> > > was
> > > >>> intentional I would expect we need to explain it somewhere, but
> can't
> > > >>> find
> > > >>> anything about it. Am I missing something?
> > > >>> - The quickstart https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart still has
> > > >>> sections to
> > > >>> start/stop Zookeeper (same for Streams Quickstart).
> > > >>> - Also the quickstart has invalid commands to format log
> directories
> > > and
> > > >>> start the server (pointing to wrong server.properties location
> under
> > > >>> /kraft). It's OK on the README.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> Lianet
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 10:41 AM David Jacot <
> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> All the documentation blockers are now closed. Let's continue the
> > > >>>> validation process. I don't expect to cut a new RC unless we find
> a
> > > >>>> non-documentation blocker.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Best,
> > > >>>> David
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:37 PM David Jacot <
> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Awesome, thanks! I just merged it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>> David
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:33 PM 黃竣陽 <s7133...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hello David,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> FYI, https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/669 this PR
> > resolve
> > > >>>> “1.7 Compatibility” section is empty.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>> Jiunn-Yang
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月12日 晚上10:15 寫
> > > >>>>>>> 道:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> FYI - I just updated the documentation. The "1.7 Compatibility"
> > > >>>>>>> section is empty. Looking into it.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>> David
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:51 PM David Jacot
> > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I will update the documentation
> by
> > > >>>> the end of
> > > >>>>>>>> the day.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>> David
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:15 PM TengYao Chi <
> > kiting...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Federico
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> The issue you mentioned has been resolved by
> > > >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19146
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Federico Valeri <fedeval...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月12日 週三 下
> > > >>>>>>>>> 午7:32寫道:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, in the doc menu I see the item "1.6 Differences
> > > >>> Between
> > > >>>>>>>>>> KRaft mode and ZooKeeper mode", but paragraph 1.6 talks
> about
> > > >>>> Docker.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Is this supposed to be there?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 10:56 AM Luke Chen <
> show...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the analysis.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.connect.connect_distributed_test - These
> > > >>>> tests are
> > > >>>>>>>>>> flaky
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in our test infrastructure but they pass locally.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> If they can be passed locally, it should be fine.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.core.network_degrade_test - This is not
> a
> > > >>>> blocker
> > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> does not test any Kafka bits besides Trogdor.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hmm... from the test description, it is indeed not related
> to
> > > >>>> kafka
> > > >>>>>>>>>> itself.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> But since we did huge change in this release, I'd like to
> be
> > > >>> more
> > > >>>>>>>>>> careful.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to run this test suite in our internal environment
> > > >>>> again and
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> report the results here.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.tools.replica_verification_test - It has
> > > >>> been
> > > >>>>>>>>> failing
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a while. The tool is deprecated and not really used so I
> > don't
> > > >>>> consider
> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as a blocker. However, there is already a PR inflight to
> > > >>> improve
> > > >>>> it.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:16 PM David Jacot
> > > >>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for backporting
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19172
> > > >>> .
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the system tests, here is my take:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.connect.connect_distributed_test - These
> > > >>>> tests are
> > > >>>>>>>>>> flaky
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in our test infrastructure but they pass locally.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.core.network_degrade_test - This is not
> a
> > > >>>> blocker
> > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does not test any Kafka bits besides Trogdor.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.tools.replica_verification_test - It has
> > > >>> been
> > > >>>>>>>>>> failing for
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a while. The tool is deprecated and not really used so I
> > don't
> > > >>>>>>>>>> consider it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a blocker. However, there is already a PR inflight to
> > > >>>> improve it.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, system tests look pretty good to me. Do you
> agree?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 8:53 AM Luke Chen <
> > show...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw there are some failed tests in system test
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-
> > > >>> results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2025-03-06--001.ccab7b98-
> > > >>> edaa-40c5-b33d-de1650ea767c--1741313025--apache--4.0--43897f84ac/
> > > >>> report.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what does that mean for this RC?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they blockers? Should we file JIRA issues to fix
> them?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I'd like to backport this upgrade doc improvement
> PR
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19172>to 4.0
> branch
> > if
> > > >>>> you
> > > >>>>>>>>>> don't
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> objections.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 5:52 PM David Jacot
> > > >>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I will update the documentation soon.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 2:43 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> > > >>>>>>>>> chia7...@apache.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi David
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have cherry-pick
> > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19146
> > > >>>>>>>>>> to 4.0
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix the link of https://kafka.apache.org/40/zk2kraft
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025/03/08 10:08:24 David Jacot wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the third candidate for release of Apache
> Kafka
> > > >>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - This is the first release without Apache Zookeeper
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance
> Protocol
> > > >>> is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Generally
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The Transactions Server-Side Defense (Phase 2) is
> > > >>>> Generally
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Available
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Kafka uses log4j2
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Remove old client protocol API versions
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/
> > > >>> RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *** Please download, test and vote by Wed, March 12
> 9am
> > PT
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign
> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>> release:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and
> > binary):
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc3
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc3
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Javadoc:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/javadoc/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is the 4.0.0
> > tag:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc3
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Documentation:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Protocol:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unit/integration tests:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13730048850
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System tests:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-
> > > >>> results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2025-03-06--001.ccab7b98-
> > > >>> edaa-40c5-b33d-de1650ea767c--1741313025--apache--4.0--43897f84ac/
> > > >>> report.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for
> > 4.0
> > > >>>>>>>>>> branch:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13735818889
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13735821944
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /**************************************
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I used RC3 instead of RC2 by mistake.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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