Hi David and all,

Sorry, I found a bug KAFKA-18979
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18979>, and in my opinion, it
should be a blocker. But I'd like to get @José Armando García Sancio
<jsan...@confluent.io> 's confirmation.

BTW, for the system tests:
> * kafkatest.tests.connect.connect_distributed_test - These tests are flaky
in our test infrastructure but they pass locally.
It passed in our internal environment.

> * kafkatest.tests.core.network_degrade_test - This is not a blocker as it
does not test any Kafka bits besides Trogdor.
The failed tests are all passed in our internal environment.
So system tests look good to me.

Thanks.
Luke

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 5:13 PM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi David and Josep
>
> I apologize for the hasty merge. Thank you, David, for promptly reverting
> it
>
> Best,
> Chia-Ping
>
> David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2025年3月13日 週四 下午5:01寫道:
>
> > We reverted the doc. I agree that we should only update it when we
> release
> > it.
> >
> > Best,
> > David
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 8:18 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > The redirect are not expected to work until after the release is
> > announced.
> > > This changed since the ASF FTP was shut down.
> > > By merging the PR with the redirect, now the docs point publicly to
> 4.0.
> > I
> > > think we should revert the redirect until the vote passes.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > ------------------
> > > Josep Prat
> > > Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
> > > josep.p...@aiven.io   |   +491715557497 | aiven.io
> > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen,
> > > Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen
> > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025, 06:47 Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Lianet
> > > >
> > > > I have merged the PR (https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/670
> ),
> > > and
> > > > the quickstart issue is fixed now.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chia-Ping
> > > >
> > > > On 2025/03/13 04:31:54 TengYao Chi wrote:
> > > > > Hi David
> > > > >
> > > > > I have updated the patch which I mentioned in the previous email.
> > > > > I have updated the default documentation to point to the 4.0
> release
> > > > docs.
> > > > > Please take a look.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > TengYao
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月13日 週四 上午11:09寫道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > I have file a patch for quickstart link issue which mentioned by
> > > > Lianet.
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/670
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should fix the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > TengYao.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月13日 週四 上午8:17寫道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hey David,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regarding the quickstart it's indeed a linking issue: if we go
> to
> > > the
> > > > 4.0
> > > > > >> documentation on https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > and
> > > > then
> > > > > >> click on the quickstart linked on the introduction (on "To get
> > > > hands-on
> > > > > >> experience with Kafka, follow the Quickstart
> > > > > >> <https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart>."), that's how we land on
> > the
> > > > > >> outdated quickstart (but the one on the 4.0 doc left menu is
> OK).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Also I filed the jira to fix the test issue for the next
> release (
> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18973)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> With that it looks good to me.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks for driving this!
> > > > > >> Lianet
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 7:27 PM Justine Olshan
> > > > > >> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Hi David,
> > > > > >> > Let me first say this is so nice to have a single java/scala
> > > > version in
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > release artifacts! It makes this validation smoother!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I also:
> > > > > >> > * Checked the signatures and checksums of the artifacts
> > > > > >> > * Used the pre-built tar to create a cluster, upgrade and
> > > downgrade
> > > > > >> > transaction version, run some simple transactional benches and
> > > > verify
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > transactions worked as expected
> > > > > >> > * Browsed the api documentation, javadoc
> > > > > >> > * Took a quick look at the tests and other jobs you ran as
> part
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > release -- +1 to not worrying about the VerificationTool test,
> > > last
> > > > I
> > > > > >> > looked at it, the tool was too slow to catch any replication
> > lag,
> > > > so it
> > > > > >> > always failed.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > +1 (binding) from me.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > >> > Justine
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:22 PM Bruno Cadonna <
> > cado...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Hi David,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > I did the following:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > - checked the signatures and checksums of all the release
> > > > artifacts
> > > > > >> > > - built from the source artifacts and ran into the same
> issue
> > > > Lianet
> > > > > >> > > described. After that I built from source using the
> 4.0.0-rc3
> > > tag.
> > > > > >> > > - ran unit and integration tests
> > > > > >> > > - ran through the Kafka quickstart with kafka and
> kafka-native
> > > > docker
> > > > > >> > > images as well as with broker started from downloaded
> archive
> > > > > >> > > - ran through Streams quickstart with kafka and kafka-native
> > > > docker
> > > > > >> > > images as well as with broker started from downloaded
> archive
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > All good, except:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > - the issue building from the source artifact)!
> > > > > >> > > - there are some linking issue in the docs as mentioned in
> my
> > > > previous
> > > > > >> > > e-mail
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Overall, +1 (binding)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Best,
> > > > > >> > > Bruno
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On 12.03.25 21:14, Bruno Cadonna wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > Hi David,
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I ran into the same issues as Lianet regading the
> > quickstart.
> > > I
> > > > > >> believe
> > > > > >> > > > there is a linking issue.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > If I go to
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > and then I click on "get started" -> "quickstart" I end up
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > >> 3.9
> > > > > >> > > > version. The 4.0 version can be found under
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation/#quickstart
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Best,
> > > > > >> > > > Bruno
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On 12.03.25 20:30, David Jacot wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >> Hi Lianet,
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Thanks!
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Let’s file a Jira for that test. This is not a blocker
> but
> > we
> > > > > >> should
> > > > > >> > > >> fix it.
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Regarding the quick start, are you sure that you used the
> > > > staged
> > > > > >> > > >> documentation for 4.0? Here:
> > > > > >> > > >> https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >> David
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Le mer. 12 mars 2025 à 20:07, Lianet M. <
> > liane...@gmail.com>
> > > a
> > > > > >> écrit
> > > > > >> > :
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >>> Hi David,
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> I've tested the RC3 and this is what I've done so far
> and
> > > what
> > > > > >> I've
> > > > > >> > > >>> found:
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> - build from src kafka-4.0.0-src.tgz with Java 17
> > > > > >> > > >>> - run unit test and integration tests
> > > > > >> > > >>> - run client examples from the examples module
> > > > > >> (consume/produce/tx)
> > > > > >> > > >>> - build clients with Java 11. Run client unit tests,
> > > > integration
> > > > > >> > > >>> tests, and
> > > > > >> > > >>> examples as above
> > > > > >> > > >>> - Followed the quickstart guide to start a broker
> > > > > >> > > >>> - Played with command line tools to consume, produce,
> > manage
> > > > > >> topics
> > > > > >> > > >>> - Tried out the new regex validator tool
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> All good with the above steps, with these findings:
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> - When running unit and integration tests on the
> > downloaded
> > > > > >> > > >>> kafka-4.0.0-src.tgz, I got some failures that recovered
> as
> > > > TengYao
> > > > > >> > > >>> mentioned, but I noticed a persistent failure locally,
> in
> > > > > >> > > >>> MetadataSchemaCheckerToolTest.testVerifyEvolutionGit.
> This
> > > > test
> > > > > >> was
> > > > > >> > > >>> added
> > > > > >> > > >>> in 4.0, and requires a git repo setup, so fails with:
> > > > > >> > > >>> *java.lang.RuntimeException:
> > > > > >> > > >>> Invalid directory, need to be within a Git repository*.
> > This
> > > > means
> > > > > >> > that
> > > > > >> > > >>> building and running the tests straight from a
> downloaded
> > > > kafka
> > > > > >> src
> > > > > >> > > >>> folder
> > > > > >> > > >>> doesn't work anymore. It used to work with previous
> > versions
> > > > (ie.
> > > > > >> > 3.9,
> > > > > >> > > I
> > > > > >> > > >>> checked again just in case), because this test didn't
> > exist.
> > > > If
> > > > > >> this
> > > > > >> > > was
> > > > > >> > > >>> intentional I would expect we need to explain it
> > somewhere,
> > > > but
> > > > > >> can't
> > > > > >> > > >>> find
> > > > > >> > > >>> anything about it. Am I missing something?
> > > > > >> > > >>> - The quickstart https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart
> > still
> > > > has
> > > > > >> > > >>> sections to
> > > > > >> > > >>> start/stop Zookeeper (same for Streams Quickstart).
> > > > > >> > > >>> - Also the quickstart has invalid commands to format log
> > > > > >> directories
> > > > > >> > > and
> > > > > >> > > >>> start the server (pointing to wrong server.properties
> > > location
> > > > > >> under
> > > > > >> > > >>> /kraft). It's OK on the README.
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>> Lianet
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 10:41 AM David Jacot <
> > > > > >> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> All the documentation blockers are now closed. Let's
> > > > continue the
> > > > > >> > > >>>> validation process. I don't expect to cut a new RC
> unless
> > > we
> > > > > >> find a
> > > > > >> > > >>>> non-documentation blocker.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:37 PM David Jacot <
> > > > > >> david.ja...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>> Awesome, thanks! I just merged it.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:33 PM 黃竣陽 <
> s7133...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>> Hello David,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>> FYI, https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/669
> > this
> > > PR
> > > > > >> > resolve
> > > > > >> > > >>>> “1.7 Compatibility” section is empty.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>> Jiunn-Yang
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> 於 2025年3月12日
> > > 晚上10:15
> > > > 寫
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> 道:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> FYI - I just updated the documentation. The "1.7
> > > > > >> Compatibility"
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> section is empty. Looking into it.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:51 PM David Jacot
> > > > > >> > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I will update the
> > > > > >> documentation by
> > > > > >> > > >>>> the end of
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> the day.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:15 PM TengYao Chi <
> > > > > >> > kiting...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Federico
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> The issue you mentioned has been resolved by
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19146
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> TengYao
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Federico Valeri <fedeval...@gmail.com> 於
> 2025年3月12日
> > > 週三
> > > > 下
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> 午7:32寫道:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi David, in the doc menu I see the item "1.6
> > > > Differences
> > > > > >> > > >>> Between
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> KRaft mode and ZooKeeper mode", but paragraph 1.6
> > > talks
> > > > > >> about
> > > > > >> > > >>>> Docker.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Is this supposed to be there?
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 10:56 AM Luke Chen <
> > > > > >> show...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the analysis.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *
> > kafkatest.tests.connect.connect_distributed_test
> > > -
> > > > > >> These
> > > > > >> > > >>>> tests are
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> flaky
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in our test infrastructure but they pass
> locally.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> If they can be passed locally, it should be
> fine.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.core.network_degrade_test -
> > This
> > > is
> > > > > >> not a
> > > > > >> > > >>>> blocker
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> does not test any Kafka bits besides Trogdor.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hmm... from the test description, it is indeed
> not
> > > > > >> related to
> > > > > >> > > >>>> kafka
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> itself.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> But since we did huge change in this release,
> I'd
> > > > like to
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> > > >>> more
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> careful.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to run this test suite in our internal
> > > > > >> environment
> > > > > >> > > >>>> again and
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> report the results here.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *
> > kafkatest.tests.tools.replica_verification_test -
> > > > It
> > > > > >> has
> > > > > >> > > >>> been
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> failing
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a while. The tool is deprecated and not really
> > used
> > > > so I
> > > > > >> > don't
> > > > > >> > > >>>> consider
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as a blocker. However, there is already a PR
> > > inflight
> > > > to
> > > > > >> > > >>> improve
> > > > > >> > > >>>> it.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:16 PM David Jacot
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for backporting
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19172
> > > > > >> > > >>> .
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the system tests, here is my take:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *
> > kafkatest.tests.connect.connect_distributed_test
> > > -
> > > > > >> These
> > > > > >> > > >>>> tests are
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> flaky
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in our test infrastructure but they pass
> locally.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> * kafkatest.tests.core.network_degrade_test -
> > This
> > > is
> > > > > >> not a
> > > > > >> > > >>>> blocker
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does not test any Kafka bits besides Trogdor.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *
> > kafkatest.tests.tools.replica_verification_test -
> > > > It
> > > > > >> has
> > > > > >> > > >>> been
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> failing for
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a while. The tool is deprecated and not really
> > used
> > > > so I
> > > > > >> > don't
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> consider it
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a blocker. However, there is already a PR
> > > > inflight to
> > > > > >> > > >>>> improve it.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, system tests look pretty good to me.
> Do
> > > you
> > > > > >> agree?
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 8:53 AM Luke Chen <
> > > > > >> > show...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw there are some failed tests in system
> test
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2025-03-06--001.ccab7b98-
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > edaa-40c5-b33d-de1650ea767c--1741313025--apache--4.0--43897f84ac/
> > > > > >> > > >>> report.html
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what does that mean for this RC?
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they blockers? Should we file JIRA issues
> to
> > > fix
> > > > > >> them?
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I'd like to backport this upgrade doc
> > > > improvement
> > > > > >> PR
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19172
> >to
> > > 4.0
> > > > > >> branch
> > > > > >> > if
> > > > > >> > > >>>> you
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> don't
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> objections.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 5:52 PM David Jacot
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chia-Ping,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I will update the documentation soon.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 2:43 AM Chia-Ping
> Tsai <
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> chia7...@apache.org
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi David
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have cherry-pick
> > > > > >> > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19146
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> to 4.0
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix the link of
> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/zk2kraft
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025/03/08 10:08:24 David Jacot wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers and
> > > > client-developers,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the third candidate for release of
> > > Apache
> > > > > >> Kafka
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - This is the first release without Apache
> > > > Zookeeper
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The Next Generation of the Consumer
> > Rebalance
> > > > > >> Protocol
> > > > > >> > > >>> is
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Generally
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Available
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The Transactions Server-Side Defense
> (Phase
> > > 2)
> > > > is
> > > > > >> > > >>>> Generally
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Available
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Kafka uses log4j2
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Remove old client protocol API versions
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/
> > > > > >> > > >>> RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *** Please download, test and vote by Wed,
> > > March
> > > > 12
> > > > > >> 9am
> > > > > >> > PT
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we
> use
> > to
> > > > sign
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> release:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Release artifacts to be voted upon
> (source
> > > and
> > > > > >> > binary):
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Docker release artifacts to be voted
> upon:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc3
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc3
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Javadoc:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc3/javadoc/
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is
> > the
> > > > 4.0.0
> > > > > >> > tag:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc3
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Documentation:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Protocol:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unit/integration tests:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13730048850
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System tests:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2025-03-06--001.ccab7b98-
> > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > edaa-40c5-b33d-de1650ea767c--1741313025--apache--4.0--43897f84ac/
> > > > > >> > > >>> report.html
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Successful Docker Image Github Actions
> > > > Pipeline for
> > > > > >> > 4.0
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> branch:
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13735818889
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13735821944
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /**************************************
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jacot
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I used RC3 instead of RC2 by mistake.
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
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> > > > >
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