Hi Jiunn-Yang,

Response inline...

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025, at 5:28 AM, 黃竣陽 wrote:
> Hello Kirk True,
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> KT1: In fact, while reviewing projects on GitHub, I haven't found any that 
> would be affected by this change. Most developers simply retrieve the Long 
> value from the map and use it directly. I will continue searching to see if I 
> can find any cases that would be affected.

I personally don't need an in-depth search to find uses of that case. It sounds 
like you've done a good amount of due diligence to find any uses. I'll leave it 
up to others to decide whether we need to press more in that area.


> KT2: That is a typo, I updated that section
> 
> KT3: AsyncKafkaConsumer also checks these return values, so I have included 
> AsyncKafkaConsumer in this KIP as well.

Great. Thanks!

Kirk

> 
> Best Regards,
> Jiunn-Yang
> 
> > Kirk True <k...@kirktrue.pro> 於 2025年3月18日 上午9:13 寫道:
> > 
> > Hi Jiunn-Yang,
> > 
> > Thanks for the KIP!
> > 
> > I agree that this oddity should be fixed. It's a bit of a funny case, 
> > KIP-wise, in that the API signature itself isn't changing, but the 
> > documentation and behavior are.
> > 
> > Some questions:
> > 
> > KT1: The KIP specifically calls out "The scenarios that will be impacted" 
> > with some skeleton code. Are you able to think of any practical cases where 
> > changing the behavior negatively impacts the user? I'm struggling to think 
> > of anything the user would/could do in that case besides log the fact.
> > 
> > KT2: It's totally minor, but I noticed in "Public Interfaces," the same 
> > method signature for beginningOffsets is listed twice.
> > 
> > KT3: ClassicKafkaConsumer is mentioned as needing to be changed, but what 
> > about AsyncKafkaConsumer? I do remember some discussion on that when this 
> > little wrinkle was found in the new consumer implementation.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Kirk
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025, at 4:30 AM, 黃竣陽 wrote:
> >> Hello everyone, 
> >> 
> >> I would like to start a discussion on KIP-1140: Avoid to return null value 
> >> in Map from public api of consumer
> >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/mIuMEw>
> >> 
> >> This proposal aims to improve the Kafka consumer API by ensuring that the 
> >> Map it returns contains only non-null values, 
> >> aligning with the design philosophy of Java collections. This change 
> >> provides significantly more benefits than drawbacks, 
> >> enhancing API consistency and usability while reducing errors caused by 
> >> developer misuse.
> >> 
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Jiunn-Yang
> 
> 

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