Hi David,
I find having the "commented" and "reviewed" distinctions a bit subjective.
In my opinion, distinguishing between "approved-by" and "reviewed-by" is as
far as I would go.
Regarding the Jira trailer, I don't have any strong opinion, but it does
help in the case of a PR working on different issues at the same time.

Best,

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 2:50 PM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback! A few common answers first:
>
> I think "Approved-by" should be the only required trailer. Since approving
> a PR implies a review, I think we can keep the mandatory trailers just to a
> single one.
>
> "Co-authored-by" is added automatically by GitHub if a PR has commits from
> another author. I don't think we can modify this.
>
> "Signed-off-by" is added automatically by GitHub if a PR has commits which
> were cryptographically signed (e.g. "git commit -S"). Again, we can't
> control this.
>
> For the two trailers automatically added by GitHub, if we include them
> explicitly in the PR body they will not be added a second time by GH. For
> an example, see
> https://github.com/apache/kafka-merge-queue-sandbox/pull/68 and
> the resulting commit
>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka-merge-queue-sandbox/commit/a100107be3cb7bd2256acc9552f3697a597b86e9
> .
> The reason we want to add them explicitly is that if we don't, GitHub will
> add them automatically below a blank line which will break other trailers.
>
>
> ---
>
> Ismael,
>
> 1) Yes, I would love to see this
> 2) GitHub arguably uses Signed-off-by incorrectly, but it's out of our
> control.
>
>
> José,
>
> I would like to reserve "Approved-by" for the binding committer approval of
> the PR. As Ismael suggested offline, we could use the following:
>
> Commented-by: left any comment on the PR (any contributor)
> Reviewed-by: did a full review on the PR (any contributor)
> Approved-by: committer(s) who approved the PR
>
> Chia,
>
> I personally don't find the Jira ticket in the commit subject to be very
> useful, but this is probably a contentious opinion :) Moving it to a
> trailer lets us reference multiple tickets or other resources so we can
> still search by ticket number. We can leave the KAFKA-12345 in the commit
> subject.
>
>
> Kirk,
>
> I'd like to automate this as much as possible. I think we can eventually
> have all of the important trailers automatically populated.
>
>
>
> -David
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 3:00 PM Kirk True <k...@kirktrue.pro> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > In general, I'm in favor of adding information where reasonably possible.
> >
> > How are these header values populated by the merging committer? Magic or
> > manual?
> >
> > I agree with others that adding so many additional "*-by" headers could
> be
> > confusing, leading to inconsistent usage. Is the equivalent of the
> > "Signed-off-by" header already captured by git/GitHub on merge?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kirk
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025, at 5:06 PM, David Arthur wrote:
> > > Hello Kafka community!
> > >
> > > I wanted to start a discussion around our Git commits and the metadata
> we
> > > keep in them.
> > >
> > > We have historically used the "Reviewers" Git trailer [1] to indicate
> who
> > > had reviewed a commit. Originally, it seems we used this field to
> > indicate
> > > the committer who approved the change (per our By-Laws). But over time,
> > its
> > > usage has expanded to include anyone (committer or not) who left a
> > comment
> > > on the PR.
> > >
> > > I think acknowledging reviews is very important for our community, and
> I
> > > want to continue doing this.
> > >
> > > I also think it is important to record the committer who approved a
> given
> > > PR.
> > >
> > > Besides improving the quality of our Git log, I'm raising this issue
> > > because of a limitation/quirk I've discovered in GitHub. While
> > researching
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19242 I found that GitHub will
> > > automatically re-wrap the text of the PR body to fit 72 characters.
> This
> > > will blindly break long "Reviewers" lines (which we regularly exceed).
> > This
> > > will make it difficult to easily find reviewers of PRs using the Git
> log.
> > >
> > > I would like to propose that we start using the following Git trailers
> in
> > > our PRs:
> > >
> > > * Reviewed-by: anyone who left feedback on the PR
> > > - * Approved-by: committers who approved the PR
> > > - * Helped-by: shout-outs for inspiration or significant help
> > > - * Signed-off-by: commit signatory
> > > - * Fixes: KAFKA-12345 <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12345>
> > > - * References: KIP-123, KAFKA-23456, apache/flink#1234, etc
> > >
> > > Each "-by" trailer should include only a single individual using the
> > > standard "First Last <email>" format. Multiple instances of the same
> > > trailer are allowed. Before merging, we would use a GitHub Action to
> > verify
> > > that at least one "Approved-by" is present.
> > >
> > > This accomplishes a few things:
> > >
> > > * Works around the GitHub 72 character limit
> > > * Keeps a cleaner record of reviewers vs approvers
> > > * Allows us to move metadata out of the commit subject, if desired
> (e.g.,
> > > KAFKA-12345)
> > >
> > > Structuring the metadata in this way allows us to use standard git
> > commands
> > > to parse the commits. This helps us move towards a fully automated
> > process
> > > where we populate these fields from the GitHub Pull Request data.
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think!
> > >
> > > David Arthur
> > >
> > > [1] https://git-scm.com/docs/git-interpret-trailers
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> David Arthur
>


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