Hi Jiunn-Yang,
Absolutely no need to apologise for non-native English :) There were many 
review cycles before it was evident that to_ was slightly better than by_.

The KIP looks great now.

Thanks,
Andrew

On 2026/04/11 08:57:37 黃竣陽 wrote:
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Apologies in advance for my non-native English — please bear with me :)
> 
> Thanks for the clarification on AS13. After thinking it through, I agree that 
> to_start_time is a better name than by_start_time. Your reasoning is 
> convincing: 
> by_duration computes a relative time (now - duration), while the new policy 
> anchors to an absolute, server-recorded timestamp (the group creation time). 
> The to_* prefix correctly conveys “seek to a fixed point”.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jiunn-Yang
> 
> > Andrew Schofield <[email protected]> 於 2026年4月11日 下午4:20 寫道:
> > 
> > Hi Jiunn-Yang,
> > Thanks for the updates.
> > 
> > AS12: Thanks.
> > 
> > AS13: I did actually mean to change all of the by_start_time, byStartTime 
> > and --by-start-time variants across the entire KIP to to_start_time, 
> > toStartTime and --to-start-time. I did say it was quite pervasive, which is 
> > why I said you could ignore the suggestion :) 
> > 
> > AS14: Thanks.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On 2026/04/11 02:13:19 黃竣陽 wrote:
> >> Hello Andrew,
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the helpful feedback. 
> >> 
> >> AS12: GROUP-CREATION-TIME is now only shown in --describe --state —verbose 
> >> output. This avoids cluttering the default output for normal users. 
> >> 
> >> AS13: Addressed in the KIP. 
> >> 
> >> AS14: Applied the same changes to kafka-streams-groups.sh. Both --describe 
> >> --state —verbose 
> >> and --reset-offsets --to-start-time are now supported for streams groups 
> >> as well.
> >> 
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Jiunn-Yang
> >> 
> >>> Andrew Schofield <[email protected]> 於 2026年4月11日 清晨5:17 寫道:
> >>> 
> >>> A few more comments I'm afraid.
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 

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