That's fair, and nice find with the transaction performance improvement!

Once the RC is out, we'll do a final round of performance testing with the
new ProducerPerformance changes enabled.

I think it's fair that this shouldn't delay the release. Is there an
official stance on what should and shouldn't delay a release documented
somewhere?

Thanks

Tom Crayford
Heroku Kafka

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Ismael Juma <isma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> We are going to do another RC to include Apurva's significant performance
> improvement when transactions are enabled:
>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commit/f239f1f839f8bcbd80cce2a4a8643e
> 15d340be8e
>
> Given that, we can also include the ProducerPerformance changes that
> Apurva did to find and fix the performance issue.
>
> In my opinion, the ProducerPerformance change alone would not be enough
> reason for another RC as users can run the tool from trunk to test older
> releases. In any case, this is hypothetical at this point. :)
>
> And thanks for continuing your testing, it's very much appreciated!
>
> Ismael
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That looks better than mine, nice! I think the tooling matters a lot to
>> the usability of the product we're shipping, being able to test out Kafka's
>> features on your own hardware/setup is very important to knowing if it can
>> work.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Apurva Mehta <apu...@confluent.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> I actually made modifications to the produce performance tool to do real
>>> transactions earlier this week as part of our benchmarking (results
>>> published here: bit.ly/kafka-eos-perf). I just submitted that patch
>>> here:
>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/3400/files
>>>
>>> I think my version is more complete since it runs the full gamut of APIs:
>>> initTransactions, beginTransaction, commitTransaction. Also, it is the
>>> version used for our published benchmarks.
>>>
>>> I am not sure that this tool is a blocker for the release though, since
>>> it
>>> doesn't really affect the usability of the feature any way.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Apurva
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi there,
>>> >
>>> > I'm -1 (non-binding) on shipping this RC.
>>> >
>>> > Heroku has carried on performance testing with 0.11 RC1. We have
>>> updated
>>> > our test setup to use 0.11.0.0 RC1 client libraries. Without any of the
>>> > transactional features enabled, we get slightly better performance than
>>> > 0.10.2.1 with 10.2.1 client libraries.
>>> >
>>> > However, we attempted to run a performance test today with
>>> transactions,
>>> > idempotence and consumer read_committed enabled, but couldn't, because
>>> > enabling transactions requires the producer to call `initTransactions`
>>> > before starting to send messages, and the producer performance tool
>>> doesn't
>>> > allow for that.
>>> >
>>> > I'm -1 (non-binding) on shipping this RC in this state, because users
>>> > expect to be able to use the inbuilt performance testing tools, and
>>> > preventing them from testing the impact of the new features using the
>>> > inbuilt tools isn't great. I made a PR for this:
>>> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/3398 (the change is very small).
>>> > Happy
>>> > to make a jira as well, if that makes sense.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Tom Crayford
>>> > Heroku Kafka
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Vahid S Hashemian <
>>> > vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Ismael,
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for running the release.
>>> > >
>>> > > Running tests ('gradlew.bat test') on my Windows 64-bit VM results in
>>> > > these checkstyle errors:
>>> > >
>>> > > :clients:checkstyleMain
>>> > > [ant:checkstyle] [ERROR]
>>> > > C:\Users\User\Downloads\kafka-0.11.0.0-src\clients\src\main\
>>> > > java\org\apache\kafka\common\protocol\Errors.java:89:1:
>>> > > Class Data Abstraction Coupling is 57 (max allowed is 20) classes
>>> > > [ApiExceptionBuilder, BrokerNotAvailableException,
>>> > > ClusterAuthorizationException, ConcurrentTransactionsException,
>>> > > ControllerMovedException, CoordinatorLoadInProgressException,
>>> > > CoordinatorNotAvailableException, CorruptRecordException,
>>> > > DuplicateSequenceNumberException, GroupAuthorizationException,
>>> > > IllegalGenerationException, IllegalSaslStateException,
>>> > > InconsistentGroupProtocolException, InvalidCommitOffsetSizeExcepti
>>> on,
>>> > > InvalidConfigurationException, InvalidFetchSizeException,
>>> > > InvalidGroupIdException, InvalidPartitionsException,
>>> > > InvalidPidMappingException, InvalidReplicaAssignmentException,
>>> > > InvalidReplicationFactorException, InvalidRequestException,
>>> > > InvalidRequiredAcksException, InvalidSessionTimeoutException,
>>> > > InvalidTimestampException, InvalidTopicException,
>>> > > InvalidTxnStateException, InvalidTxnTimeoutException,
>>> > > LeaderNotAvailableException, NetworkException,
>>> NotControllerException,
>>> > > NotCoordinatorException, NotEnoughReplicasAfterAppendException,
>>> > > NotEnoughReplicasException, NotLeaderForPartitionException,
>>> > > OffsetMetadataTooLarge, OffsetOutOfRangeException,
>>> > > OperationNotAttemptedException, OutOfOrderSequenceException,
>>> > > PolicyViolationException, ProducerFencedException,
>>> > > RebalanceInProgressException, RecordBatchTooLargeException,
>>> > > RecordTooLargeException, ReplicaNotAvailableException,
>>> > > SecurityDisabledException, TimeoutException,
>>> TopicAuthorizationException,
>>> > > TopicExistsException, TransactionCoordinatorFencedException,
>>> > > TransactionalIdAuthorizationException, UnknownMemberIdException,
>>> > > UnknownServerException, UnknownTopicOrPartitionException,
>>> > > UnsupportedForMessageFormatException, UnsupportedSaslMechanismExcept
>>> ion,
>>> > > UnsupportedVersionException]. [ClassDataAbstractionCoupling]
>>> > > [ant:checkstyle] [ERROR]
>>> > > C:\Users\User\Downloads\kafka-0.11.0.0-src\clients\src\main\
>>> > > java\org\apache\kafka\common\protocol\Errors.java:89:1:
>>> > > Class Fan-Out Complexity is 60 (max allowed is 40).
>>> > > [ClassFanOutComplexity]
>>> > > [ant:checkstyle] [ERROR]
>>> > > C:\Users\User\Downloads\kafka-0.11.0.0-src\clients\src\main\
>>> > > java\org\apache\kafka\common\requests\AbstractRequest.java:26:1:
>>> > > Class Fan-Out Complexity is 43 (max allowed is 40).
>>> > > [ClassFanOutComplexity]
>>> > > [ant:checkstyle] [ERROR]
>>> > > C:\Users\User\Downloads\kafka-0.11.0.0-src\clients\src\main\
>>> > > java\org\apache\kafka\common\requests\AbstractResponse.java:26:1:
>>> > > Class Fan-Out Complexity is 42 (max allowed is 40).
>>> > > [ClassFanOutComplexity]
>>> > > :clients:checkstyleMain FAILED
>>> > >
>>> > > I wonder if there is an issue with my VM since I don't get similar
>>> errors
>>> > > on Ubuntu or Mac.
>>> > >
>>> > > --Vahid
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From:   Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
>>> > > To:     dev@kafka.apache.org, Kafka Users <us...@kafka.apache.org>,
>>> > > kafka-clients <kafka-clie...@googlegroups.com>
>>> > > Date:   06/18/2017 03:32 PM
>>> > > Subject:        [VOTE] 0.11.0.0 RC1
>>> > > Sent by:        isma...@gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
>>> > >
>>> > > This is the second candidate for release of Apache Kafka 0.11.0.0.
>>> > >
>>> > > This is a major version release of Apache Kafka. It includes 32 new
>>> KIPs.
>>> > > See
>>> > > the release notes and release plan (https://cwiki.apache.org/conf
>>> > > luence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+0.11.0.0) for more details. A few
>>> > > feature
>>> > > highlights:
>>> > >
>>> > > * Exactly-once delivery and transactional messaging
>>> > > * Streams exactly-once semantics
>>> > > * Admin client with support for topic, ACLs and config management
>>> > > * Record headers
>>> > > * Request rate quotas
>>> > > * Improved resiliency: replication protocol improvement and
>>> > > single-threaded
>>> > > controller
>>> > > * Richer and more efficient message format
>>> > >
>>> > > A number of issues have been resolved since RC0 and there are no
>>> known
>>> > > blockers remaining.
>>> > >
>>> > > Release notes for the 0.11.0.0 release:
>>> > > http://home.apache.org/~ijuma/kafka-0.11.0.0-rc1/RELEASE_NOTES.html
>>> > >
>>> > > *** Please download, test and vote by Thursday, June 22, 9am PT
>>> > >
>>> > > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
>>> > > http://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
>>> > >
>>> > > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
>>> > > http://home.apache.org/~ijuma/kafka-0.11.0.0-rc1/
>>> > >
>>> > > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
>>> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apa
>>> che/kafka/
>>> > >
>>> > > * Javadoc:
>>> > > http://home.apache.org/~ijuma/kafka-0.11.0.0-rc1/javadoc/
>>> > >
>>> > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 0.11.0 branch) is the 0.11.0.0 tag:
>>> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=kafka.git;a=tag;h=
>>> > > 4818d4e1cbef1a8e9c027100fef317077fb3fb99
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > * Documentation:
>>> > > http://kafka.apache.org/0110/documentation.html
>>> > >
>>> > > * Protocol:
>>> > > http://kafka.apache.org/0110/protocol.html
>>> > >
>>> > > * Successful Jenkins builds for the 0.11.0 branch:
>>> > > Unit/integration tests:
>>> > > https://builds.apache.org/job/kafka-0.11.0-jdk7/167/
>>> > > System tests:
>>> > > https://jenkins.confluent.io/job/system-test-kafka-0.11.0/16/
>>> > > (all 274 tests passed, the reported failure was not related to the
>>> tests)
>>> > >
>>> > > /**************************************
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Ismael
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

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