Thanks everyone for the feedback. I've updated the KIP and added KAFKA-6979.
-Jason On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Jason. I'm in favor of option 1 as well. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Bill Bejeck <bbej...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > For what it's worth I'm +1 on Option 1 and the default value for the > > timeout. > > > > In addition to reasons outlined above by Jason, I think it will help to > > reason about consumer behavior (with respect to blocking) having the > > configuration and default value aligned with the producer. > > > > -Bill > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > Sounds good to me, > > > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:40 PM Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps one minute? That is the default used by the producer. > > > > > > > > -Jason > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Option 1 sounds good to me provided that we can come up with a good > > > > > default. What would you suggest? > > > > > > > > > > Ismael > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:41 AM Jason Gustafson < > ja...@confluent.io> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > There remains some inconsistency in the timeout behavior of the > > > > consumer > > > > > > APIs which do not accept a timeout. Some of them block forever > > (e.g. > > > > > > position()) and some of them use request.timeout.ms (e.g. > > > > > > parititonsFor()). > > > > > > I think we'd probably all agree that blocking forever is not > useful > > > > > > behavior and using request.timeout.ms has always been a hack > since > > > it > > > > > > controls a separate concern. I think there are basically two > > options > > > to > > > > > > address this: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. We can add max.block.ms to match the producer and use it as > the > > > > > default > > > > > > timeout when a timeout is not explicitly provided. This will fix > > the > > > > > > indefinite blocking behavior and avoid conflating > > request.timeout.ms > > > . > > > > > > 2. We can deprecate the methods which don't accept a timeout. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm leaning toward the first solution because I think we want to > > push > > > > > users > > > > > > to specifying timeouts through configuration rather than in code > > > (Jay's > > > > > > original argument). I think the overloads are still useful for > > > advanced > > > > > > usage (e.g. in kafka streams), but we should give users an easy > > > option > > > > > with > > > > > > reasonable default behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > If that sounds ok, I'd propose we add it to this KIP and fix it > > now. > > > > This > > > > > > gives users an easy way to get the benefit of the improvements > from > > > > this > > > > > > KIP without changing any code. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Richard Yu < > > > > yohan.richard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 3 binding votes and 6 non-binding, this KIP would be > > accepted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for participating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Edoardo Comar < > > edoco...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 May 2018 at 10:29, zhenya Sun <toke...@126.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 non-binding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 在 2018年5月10日，下午5:19，Manikumar <manikumar.re...@gmail.com > > > > > 写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding). > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Mickael Maison < > > > > > > > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> +1 (non binding) > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Rajini Sivaram < > > > > > > > > > rajinisiva...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi Richard, Thanks for the KIP. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> +1 (binding) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Rajini > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Guozhang Wang < > > > > > > wangg...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> +1 from me, thanks! > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Guozhang > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Jason Gustafson < > > > > > > > > ja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for the KIP, +1 (binding). > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> One small correction: the KIP mentions that close() > > will > > > be > > > > > > > > > >> deprecated, > > > > > > > > > >>>> but > > > > > > > > > >>>>> we do not want to do this because it is needed by the > > > > > Closeable > > > > > > > > > >>>> interface. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> We only want to deprecate close(long, TimeUnit) in > > favor > > > of > > > > > > > > > >>>>> close(Duration). > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> -Jason > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:43 AM, khaireddine Rezgui < > > > > > > > > > >>>>> khaireddine...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2018-05-07 20:35 GMT+01:00 Bill Bejeck < > > > bbej...@gmail.com > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Bill > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM, Richard Yu < > > > > > > > > > >>>> yohan.richard...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, I would like to bump this thread since > > > > discussion > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>>> KIP > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> appears to be reaching its conclusion. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Richard Yu < > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> yohan.richard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Since there does not seem to be too much > discussion > > > in > > > > > > > > > >> KIP-266, I > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> will > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> starting a voting thread. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Here is the link to KIP-266 for reference: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/ > confluence/pages/viewpage > > . > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> action?pageId=75974886 > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Recently, I have made some updates to the KIP. To > > > > > > reiterate, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> included KafkaConsumer's commitSync, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> poll, and committed in the KIP. (we will be > adding > > > to a > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> TimeoutException > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to them as well, in a similar manner > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to what we will be doing for position()) > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Richard Yu > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Ingénieur en informatique > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- Guozhang > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; > when > > > the > > > > > > > > government fears the people, there is liberty." [Thomas > > > Jefferson] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- Guozhang >
