2012/1/17 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>

> Hi guys,
>
> let me try to summarise the different options:
> - include in Karaf: it's not a good idea as the commands scope is not
> purely container related
> - include in a Karaf sub-project (as Karaf Extra on google, or a pure
> sub-project as Cellar, WebConsole, Cave and EIK). Pros: we control/are the
> community, the release cycle, etc. Cons: it's more difficult for others
> communities to join and contribute.
> - include in a KarafEE. It means in OpenEJB. It makes sense but we are not
> involved in the OpenEJB community. More over, KarafEE is new and a "lot" of
> stuff should be done
> - include in Geronimo. Geronimo already use Karaf and some of us are
> involved in the Geronimo communities. It could be interesting but it means
> that we should be more involved in the Geronimo community.
> - include in ServiceMix. We are most of all involved in the ServiceMix
> community. It could be a good location even if it's not the core purpose of
> ServiceMix.
>

I really like the idea with SMX. Wil give a little bit more fire to the
project, involve more communities (and will finally provide a reason for me
to contribute to the project :-)). The only question is: do they wont those
projects there? In addition we should not couple the releases of those
"minor commands" to smx itself since it would be simply too slow for such
small standalone features/commands.

Kind regards,
Andreas


>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 01/16/2012 11:21 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>> I would opt for some from Apache repositories too, since we all have
>> access to them. I preffer a ServiceMix as destination project because from
>> following reasons:
>>
>> 1) We have more Karaf commiters in ServiceMix than in any other project
>> listed before
>> 2) Our communities in past was strictly connected and we still cooperate
>> very well
>> 3) It looks like an application server domain but it don't have to be -
>> exposed connection factory can point to external IBM MQ or Oracle broker
>> 4) ServiceMix can still be used with Geronimo, and these commands, if
>> we'll keep dependencies clear, can be part of Geronimo distribution to
>>
>> Only one problem we have is a big question mark regarding SMX5 project
>> scope discussed few months before. If it still be a OSGi ready or not. But
>> so far development on 5th release is almost nothing and we can focus on
>> SMX4 and OSGi doing some improvements for community eg in ServiceMix 4.4.
>> That can proof that OSGi is the best choice for runtime. :)
>>
>> Gute nacht
>> Łukasz Dywicki
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>> Wiadomość napisana przez Ioannis Canellos w dniu 2012-01-16, o godz.
>> 19:47:
>>
>>  I think the most appropriate place for this kind of stuff is geronimo
>>>> since the general idea for geronimo is to provide EE funcionality that
>>>> elaborates other projects.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, Geronimo would be a great place too, as long as it can provide a
>>> feature descriptor that would allow its use in plain Karaf. But I really
>>> don't think that this would be a problem.
>>>
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