On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
>>
>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>
>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine a 
>> Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both Spring 
>> 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna test 
>> tonight).
>
> I agree with that.    I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring 
> 3.1.x.    I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and think 
> about that for 2.4.
>
> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major 
> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>

Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.

But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.

It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
people to configure Karaf to use that.

At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
upgrade for Camel has been painless.


>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
>>>> 2.10.
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from Karaf.
>>>
>>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
>>> since December 2011.
>>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>>> <spring.osgi.version>1.2.1</spring.osgi.version>
>>>>>> <spring2.version>2.5.6.SEC03</spring2.version>
>>>>>> <spring.version>3.0.7.RELEASE</spring.version>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
>>>>> of Spring.
>>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
>>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
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>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> [email protected]
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
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> Daniel Kulp
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>



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