My understanding that the spring31 feature would be an optional part of Karaf 2.3.
As to Karaf 2.4 - other than spring 3.1 i think we need to start a separate thread to discuss that particular branch's major changes. Please note, we've added a 2.4.0 version to Jira so that issues for that future release can be recorded. Cheers, Jamie On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Christian Müller <[email protected]> wrote: > I share most/all of the opinions. > > My additional 0,02$: > - If we have to release Karaf 2.3.0 today or in the next days, may be it's > safer to postpone the spring31 feature for Karaf 2.4.0/3.0.0. In this case, > Karaf 2.4.0 should be released in the next 2 - 5 weeks. > - If we can postpone Karaf 2.3.0 for 4 - 14 days, it would be great to > provide the spring31 feature in Karaf 2.3.0. > > Best, > Christian > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Jamie G. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The dependencies table Achim was mentioning: >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/index/documentation/karaf-dependencies/karaf-deps-2.2.x.html >> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Fwiw, mina 2.0.7 is now available, so i'll update 2.3.x branch to it, >> > unless someone has already done it. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> I think a valid "workaround" would be to offer a spring31 feature, I'm >> >> quite sure >> >> we're able to extract that kind of feature from trunk ;) >> >> >> >> regarding the road-map proposal, yes this would be really helpful. >> >> I know we have a Matrix showing which version does contain which >> >> dependencies (@Jamie where is it located?) >> >> but somehow it's again a pain to find it. >> >> >> >> I think we need to redo our webpage desperately since not all >> >> information can be found easily and the menu >> >> doesn't necessarily relate to the content (e.g. the manual) >> >> >> >> regards, Achim >> >> >> >> 2012/10/9 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>: >> >> > Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about >> Claus's >> >> > remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects. >> >> > >> >> > What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix >> >> > projects a page containing a table of the different software used and >> >> have >> >> > a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring >> >> > framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into >> >> > Karaf/ServiceMix >> >> > This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of >> a >> >> > release that we have miss something >> >> > >> >> > Just my 5€ cents. >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on >> Karaf. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not >> >> imagine >> >> >> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose >> both >> >> >> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I >> gonna >> >> >> test tonight). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I agree with that. I know CXF has had very little testing with >> >> Spring >> >> >> 3.1.x. I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 >> and >> >> >> think about that for 2.4. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a >> >> major >> >> >> component like spring. Maybe a month ago, but not now. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box >> >> >> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any >> >> >> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since. >> >> >> >> >> >> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people >> >> >> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1. >> >> >> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for >> >> >> people to configure Karaf to use that. >> >> >> >> >> >> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The >> >> >> upgrade for Camel has been painless. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dan >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> JB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" >> with >> >> >> Camel >> >> >> >>>> 2.10. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel >> >> version >> >> >> >>>> maybe) ? >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are >> >> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf. >> >> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from >> >> >> Karaf. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its >> been >> >> out >> >> >> >>> since December 2011. >> >> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Regards >> >> >> >>>> JB >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus, >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file: >> >> >> >>>>>> <spring.osgi.version>1.2.1</spring.osgi.version> >> >> >> >>>>>> <spring2.version>2.5.6.SEC03</spring2.version> >> >> >> >>>>>> <spring.version>3.0.7.RELEASE</spring.version> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 >> >> >> release >> >> >> >>>>> of Spring. >> >> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release >> of >> >> >> these >> >> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces. >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Cheers, >> >> >> >>>>>> Jamie >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Hi >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the >> box? >> >> >> 3.0.x >> >> >> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ? >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. < >> >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> I'm always ready! >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Jamie >> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, [email protected] < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot ! >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> -- >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message ----- >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Hey, >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and >> KARAF-1752 >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> (assigned to >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to >> >> 2.3.1. >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; >> >> I'll >> >> >> apply >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then. >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Andreas >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys, >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> JB >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >> >>>>>>> Claus Ibsen >> >> >> >>>>>>> ----------------- >> >> >> >>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc. >> >> >> >>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >> >> >> >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >> >> >> >>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >> >> >> >>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus >> >> >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >> >> >> >>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> >> >> >>>> [email protected] >> >> >> >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> >> >> >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> >> >> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Daniel Kulp >> >> >> > [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog >> >> >> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Claus Ibsen >> >> >> ----------------- >> >> >> Red Hat, Inc. >> >> >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat >> >> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> >> Web: http://fusesource.com >> >> >> Twitter: davsclaus >> >> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >> >> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Charles Moulliard >> >> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat) >> >> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC >> >> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> >> >> Committer & Project Lead >> >> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin >> >> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project >> >> Lead >> >> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ------------------------ >> > Guillaume Nodet >> > ------------------------ >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> > ------------------------ >> > FuseSource, Integration everywhere >> > http://fusesource.com >> > > > > --
