What if it was first prototyped with Spring?  Deployer, feature, and all.
 Use that as a template then for migrating other non-core modules?

Is this that much different than the karaf-webconsole project?

*Scott England-Sullivan*
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

I really like this idea of separate feature files.
And I think we really should at least give it a try.
I fully understand the "fears" of Ioannis, Guillaume and Freeman
cause as I tried to seperate the pax-web features from Karaf
I just stumbled over a couple of constraint I didn't see right
from the beginning.
Like Camel depends on the http feature, this feature also
provides Karaf specific commands and so forth.
I think it can be done and I'll try to work on this as soon as possible,
still I think we will find such shortcomings with other features, too.

But if we stick to the way it is right now, we do get the feedback
it's not modular enough :)

regards, Achim


2012/10/18 Christian Schneider <[email protected]>:

I think the goal to have separate feature files that are independent of the

karaf version is good.

Like Ioannis I am also unsure if it can be done right now. At least the

recent karaf versions would not have allowed that.

So before really starting this we should make sure we can deliver these

independent feature files.


Christian



On 10/18/2012 09:52 AM, Ioannis Canellos wrote:


The idea seems good at first glance, but there are things that we need

consider.


In many cases a feature descriptor is not portable between major Karaf

versions, and it also happens that it breaks between minor versions.


Even from Karaf 2.2.x to Karaf 2.3.x I've seen third party features break.

So it may seem that most features could decoupled from the underlying

version of Karaf, but practically this is not always the case.


An example: In the spring feature case, we also have the spring deployer.

Where will the source of spring deployer will be hosted and which are

going

to be the versions of fileinstall and karaf that the deployer will be

built

against?







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