>From a high level this sounds good, however i share Ioannis,
Guillaume, and Freeman's concerns as well.

I assume this would be targeting Karaf 2.4.x / 3.1.x?

Cheers,
Jamie

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Scott England-Sullivan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> What if it was first prototyped with Spring?  Deployer, feature, and all.
>  Use that as a template then for migrating other non-core modules?
>
> Is this that much different than the karaf-webconsole project?
>
> *Scott England-Sullivan*
> *blog*:sully6768.blogspot.com
> *twitter*:@sully6768
>
> On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I really like this idea of separate feature files.
> And I think we really should at least give it a try.
> I fully understand the "fears" of Ioannis, Guillaume and Freeman
> cause as I tried to seperate the pax-web features from Karaf
> I just stumbled over a couple of constraint I didn't see right
> from the beginning.
> Like Camel depends on the http feature, this feature also
> provides Karaf specific commands and so forth.
> I think it can be done and I'll try to work on this as soon as possible,
> still I think we will find such shortcomings with other features, too.
>
> But if we stick to the way it is right now, we do get the feedback
> it's not modular enough :)
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2012/10/18 Christian Schneider <[email protected]>:
>
> I think the goal to have separate feature files that are independent of the
>
> karaf version is good.
>
> Like Ioannis I am also unsure if it can be done right now. At least the
>
> recent karaf versions would not have allowed that.
>
> So before really starting this we should make sure we can deliver these
>
> independent feature files.
>
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2012 09:52 AM, Ioannis Canellos wrote:
>
>
> The idea seems good at first glance, but there are things that we need
>
> consider.
>
>
> In many cases a feature descriptor is not portable between major Karaf
>
> versions, and it also happens that it breaks between minor versions.
>
>
> Even from Karaf 2.2.x to Karaf 2.3.x I've seen third party features break.
>
> So it may seem that most features could decoupled from the underlying
>
> version of Karaf, but practically this is not always the case.
>
>
> An example: In the spring feature case, we also have the spring deployer.
>
> Where will the source of spring deployer will be hosted and which are
>
> going
>
> to be the versions of fileinstall and karaf that the deployer will be
>
> built
>
> against?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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