Sure thing!

Here's the ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25050

I'm migrating the other modules depending on Maven, and should have a PR
soon.

Cheers!
--
Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
Vida longa e próspera.


On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:02 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ricardo,
>
> I completely get the value of the mentioned repo for the current
> situation we have (several repositories, with complex chain of
> dependencies), I just don't think the current situation is sustainable
> for the long term based on the new reality of Apache.
>
> However, as you properly mentioned, right now the focus is to migrate
> as is... and let's start new discussions only after we complete it :)
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:57 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > I'll open a ticket, but I'm curious why you're saying that this repo does
> > not have much to do with KIE since this action is used among all our
> > projects to run the builds.
> > I'm okay having it whitelisted now, thou. Let's talk about renovating the
> > CI once we wrap up this migration.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > --
> > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > Vida longa e próspera.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:06 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ricardo,
> > >
> > > I share similar concerns as Tibor for the proposed repository, so
> > > probably the best thing is to start a new focused PROPOSAL thread to
> > > discuss.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:50 PM Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ricardo,
> > > >
> > > > I would recommend, that you can ask for the exception, till we get an
> > > > agreement about the repository itself.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Tibor
> > > >
> > > > Dňa st 4. 10. 2023, 18:35 ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > napísal(a):
> > > >
> > > > > Tibor,
> > > > >
> > > > > This action, AFAIK, is highly related to our repos, so I think we
> > > should
> > > > > consider moving and maintaining it. Another option is to whitelist
> it
> > > for
> > > > > now, but open tickets to migrate/review the whole pipeline in the
> > > future.
> > > > > Can we get a consensus from the community on what we can do now?
> Sorry
> > > to
> > > > > sound too pushy, but I really want to move forward since we need to
> > > start
> > > > > merging PRs, and without a working CI we can't. :(
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:13 PM Tibor Zimányi <
> [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ricardo,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think it is necessary to move that, you can create an
> INFRA
> > > > > ticket,
> > > > > > similar to this one, to whitelist the action:
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24928. In my
> personal
> > > > > opinion,
> > > > > > the code in the repository has not much to do with the KIE
> community
> > > > > domain
> > > > > > and it will be another task to maintain it. However that is my
> > > opinion,
> > > > > if
> > > > > > there is a broad agreement to migrate it, I am not against it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Was this kind of work assessed before the migration?" - This was
> > > > > assessed
> > > > > > as best as we could do at the time as we didn't know exactly
> what,
> > > and
> > > > > more
> > > > > > importantly in which form (GitHub Actions and GitHub Actions in
> other
> > > > > > organizations can be different - as you actually experienced,
> same
> > > with
> > > > > > Jenkins - you can have a different plugins set installed), is
> > > available
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Apache. Migrating a community that has over 100 various
> repositories
> > > is
> > > > > > very hard to assess up front. The migration was planned for
> multiple
> > > > > months
> > > > > > ahead, with multiple information streams about it, and all help
> from
> > > > > people
> > > > > > in the community to get this migration done is very appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Tibor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 4:45 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jan/Tibor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we migrate this action to Apache?
> > > > > > > https://github.com/kiegroup/github-action-build-chain/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are using it in our runs, and I believe that based on Apache
> > > policy
> > > > > > [1],
> > > > > > > we won't be able to use it. It's a quite complex action and it
> > > would
> > > > > > > be tremendous work to migrate everything otherwise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Was this kind of work assessed before the migration?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] Actions in this workflow must be: *within a repository
> owned by
> > > > > > > apache*,
> > > > > > > created by GitHub, verified in the GitHub Marketplace, or
> matching
> > > the
> > > > > > > following: [..]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:31 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think I can make more use of my time taking a look at GHA
> PR
> > > > > checks.
> > > > > > > > I'll start working on it! Thanks for the detailed report!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:25 PM Jan Šťastný <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hello Ricardo,
> > > > > > > >> not sure if you're checking the other thread where I report
> > > > > progress.
> > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > >> try to summarize where you could jump in at the moment and
> > > justify
> > > > > why
> > > > > > > >> everything is taking so long.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 1. We don't release nightly SNAPSHOTS at the moment. There's
> > > several
> > > > > > > steps
> > > > > > > >> leading to it, including moving projects from jboss-parent
> to
> > > apache
> > > > > > > one,
> > > > > > > >> fixing trigger issue in CI (should be fine when merged) and
> I
> > > > > suspect
> > > > > > > >> we'll
> > > > > > > >> hit a few more as we go. Then we can onboard to Apache
> nexus and
> > > > > start
> > > > > > > >> having snapshots release, which would simplify the rest of
> > > things
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> bit.
> > > > > > > >> 2. For that reason, all builds need to build full the chain
> - a
> > > > > > > >> kogito-examples PR need to start build from drools, so that
> > > > > artifacts
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > >> installed, etc. We're using build-chain tool for that. The
> tool
> > > has
> > > > > > > >> significant issue at the moment (identified just today),
> we're
> > > > > looking
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> fix it in kiegroup/github-action-build-chain/issues/461 .
> > > > > > > >> 3. GitHub Actions, not being completely separate from these
> > > efforts,
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > >> to follow the same path at the moment I am afraid - no
> > > snapshots, it
> > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > >> to be a Full downstream build.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I am currently taking care of getting initial PR checks in
> > > Jenkins
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > >> reliably (although way too long, I understand) and prepare
> > > nightly
> > > > > > > >> pipeline
> > > > > > > >> builds including triggers.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Tibor is working on moving the repositories from
> jboss-parent to
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > >> one, being a prerequisite for Apache nexus onboarding.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Your area of focus could be getting GHA, just consider all
> that
> > > was
> > > > > > > said -
> > > > > > > >> before we have snapshots, we can't limit the scope of the
> build
> > > ....
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> so
> > > > > > > >> on.
> > > > > > > >> Another area would be the Apache nexus onboarding itself -
> if
> > > it can
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > >> initiated already, etc, you can check
> > > > > > > >> https://infra.apache.org/publishing-maven-artifacts.html.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > > >> Jan
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 19:57, ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Hey folks!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > As you may know, since the migration, the PR checks are
> not
> > > been
> > > > > > > >> running.
> > > > > > > >> > So we are kind of blocked from merging anything based on
> our
> > > > > policy.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I intend to take a few hours to work on it. I'll try to
> make
> > > this
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > >> at
> > > > > > > >> > least for kogito-runtimes to unlock the community:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/KIE/job/kogito/job/main/job/pullrequest_jobs/job/kogito-runtimes-pr/view/change-requests/
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > After that, I'll take a look at GHA. I assume we will
> have to
> > > > > > migrate
> > > > > > > >> many
> > > > > > > >> > actions to our own org or to shell scripts or try to do
> > > something
> > > > > > > >> entirely
> > > > > > > >> > different. But that's a topic for the future.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > That's been said, Jan and Tibor, can you please share any
> > > useful
> > > > > > > >> > information about this environment so I can start working
> on
> > > it?
> > > > > > After
> > > > > > > >> > fixing it, I'll share the outcome with the community so
> > > others can
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> > same in other jobs.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Cheers!
> > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > >> > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > > > >> > Vida longa e próspera.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Tibor Zimanyi
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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