Please then make this explicit

We have so many moving pieces; we need to clear about those things

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 1:25 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> But it will exist in the next release and we will also publish snapshots
> there. I think it's fair to have it there.
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:08 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ricardo,
> >
> > I noticed that you included the serverless operator repo, however for
> > the current state this repo doesn't exist for apache release.. I'm
> > concerned that this might confuse the IPMC =/
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:20 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's the ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25794
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 1:08 PM Tiago Bento <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From my end, yes.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:23 AM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tiago,
> > > > >
> > > > > The spreadsheet is final? Can I open the JIRA for Apache to create
> > our
> > > > > tokens?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:20 AM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I think we can use branch -> tag pattern. So:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sonataflow-builder:main, sonataflow-builder:10.0.x and so on so
> > forth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:31 AM Jan Šťastný <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> For the kogito-ci-build image we already have branch-specific
> > latest
> > > > tags
> > > > > >> as in `main-latest`, `10.0.x-latest` ... so we might do
> similarly
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > >> -nightly tag?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thinking about the `main-latest` vs `main` in terms of tag
> > semantics
> > > > for
> > > > > >> kogito-ci-build ... it might as well be enough `main`, `10.0.x`,
> > ...
> > > > would
> > > > > >> that make things more aligned?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >> Jan
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 22:39, Tiago Bento <
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > I think each branch deserves its own "nightly", so having a
> tag
> > for
> > > > > >> > each branch would replace the "nightly" concept. Of course
> > we're not
> > > > > >> > going to maintain all branches forever, but at least for a
> > while,
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > 10.0.x will have *some* development going on, in case we need
> to
> > > > > >> > address an important bug or security issue.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 3:50 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > What's gonna be the tag for nightly? :nightly? :)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 4:22 PM Tiago Bento <
> > > > > >> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > +1
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > One tag for `main`, one tag for `10.0.x`, then another tag
> > for
> > > > > >> `10.1.x`
> > > > > >> > > > etc.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > But I suppose we'd have only a single tag per branch
> and
> > > > replace
> > > > > >> > > > > that, so the things don't get out of hand?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Agreed!
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:52 PM Jan Šťastný <
> > > > > >> [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > The only place I can see the -nightly images right
> now,
> > is a
> > > > > >> > regular
> > > > > >> > > > > > registry cleanup pipeline - maybe the concern was the
> > heavy
> > > > load
> > > > > >> > on the
> > > > > >> > > > > > registry? But I suppose we'd have only a single tag
> per
> > > > branch
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > > > replace
> > > > > >> > > > > > that, so the things don't get out of hand?
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 19:11, ricardo zanini
> fernandes <
> > > > > >> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, I think we need an email.
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:12 PM Tiago Bento <
> > > > > >> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Good, so maybe we can proceed like this (dropping
> > the
> > > > > >> -nightly
> > > > > >> > > > suffix
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > and using a tag instead)... Maybe I should send an
> > > > email to
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > original [PROPOSAL] thread you sent?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 8:23 AM ricardo zanini
> > fernandes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hey Jan!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > AFAIK, we deprecated the operator that was using
> > these
> > > > > >> > images.
> > > > > >> > > > And in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > examples repos we will keep only commands for
> > users to
> > > > > >> build
> > > > > >> > > > their
> > > > > >> > > > > > > images
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > locally. That's not necessary anymore, that's my
> > > > > >> > understanding.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I just asked in case someone else has another
> > opinion.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @Tiago, I thought the same thing. I'm not sure
> why
> > > > they
> > > > > >> were
> > > > > >> > > > created
> > > > > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > way in the first place, it would be safer to
> > > > understand
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > motivations.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > But, as Jan said, if we got regressions we can
> > safely
> > > > fix
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > IMO.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:49 AM Jan Šťastný <
> > > > > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > looks good to me.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The examples images might have been used in
> some
> > > > tests
> > > > > >> in
> > > > > >> > CI,
> > > > > >> > > > but I
> > > > > >> > > > > > > am
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sure which ones and where exactly (were those
> > > > operator
> > > > > >> bdd
> > > > > >> > > > tests
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > perhaps?).
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But Ricardo, you're more familiar with those
> > > > > >> repositories
> > > > > >> > than
> > > > > >> > > > me,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > go
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > with your assessment and in the worst case
> we'd
> > > > hotfix
> > > > > >> in
> > > > > >> > case
> > > > > >> > > > of a
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regression.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Jan
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 14 May 2024 at 23:07, Tiago Bento <
> > > > > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Since we're doing this, maybe we should
> > consider
> > > > > >> > handling the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > `nightly` publication with a Tag only? The
> > suffix
> > > > > >> really
> > > > > >> > > > makes it
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > difficult to parameterize stuff...
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 4:56 PM ricardo
> zanini
> > > > > >> fernandes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Tiago!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:53 PM Tiago
> Bento
> > <
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > KIE Tools has several images too. I'll
> > update
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > > > spreadsheet
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > accordingly.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for putting this together!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 4:37 PM ricardo
> > zanini
> > > > > >> > fernandes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just one more thing: in short, we will
> > have
> > > > only
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > > images
> > > > > >> > > > > > > in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > column
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "New Image".
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we agree, I'll then open the JIRA
> > > > reporting
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > > images
> > > > > >> > > > > > we
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > publish
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at docker.io/apache.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:35 PM
> ricardo
> > > > zanini
> > > > > >> > > > fernandes <
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see the attached spreadsheet
> > [1]
> > > > with
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > > > > images
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > touching our codebase. I'll send PRs
> > > > across
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > repositories
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > week.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you can take a look and
> review
> > > > those.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's one a question that came up:
> > are
> > > > we
> > > > > >> > going to
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > release/publish
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `examples-` images? I don't think
> so,
> > > > right?
> > > > > >> If
> > > > > >> > > > that's
> > > > > >> > > > > > > true,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remove all the examples that mention
> > these
> > > > > >> > images and
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > examples
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated images.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> >
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> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
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