Thank you very much for the proposal, Toni!

Some clarifications:

* Code Change (GitHub) -> RTC "Requires one binding votes by a contributor
who has reviewed the change. Review includes running the code if possible."

    Does it mean we can merge a PR with one approval? (while we have been
merging a PR with two approvals so far)

* Lazy Consensus "Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and no binding
-1 votes. -1 is a veto."

    I think Lazy Consensus is generally "0 vote means accepted" (
https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus). Why do you
define it like this?

* Reverting a Breaking Code Change (Github) -> Lazy majority

    I guess you meant we can quickly revert a change when it breaks a
build. However, Lazy majority (Requires three binding +1 votes and ...)
sounds slow. Maybe it can also be RTC?

Regards,
Toshiya

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 5:31 PM Toni Rikkola <rikk...@apache.org> wrote:

> I got queries about what Challenging an Action is. I improved the
> definition to make it more clear that it is only a tool to add an
> discussion/proposal step for actions that went directly to vote.
>
> Toni
>
> On 2025/03/13 11:14:40 Toni Rikkola wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Link to what the proposed wiki page would look like:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KIE/Proposal+Apache+KIE+ByLaws
> >
> > I am skipping the discussion step since I am sure the majority of us
> > want this feature and I was unsure on how to lead that discussion
> > without actually having a demo in the proposal wiki page.
> >
> > I would like to get feedback especially on the votes. I started with +1,
> > +0.5, 0. -0.5, -1. If you take a look at what the other teams do they
> > have every possible combination. For example +1, +0, -0, -1 is the most
> > popular one. Few even only allow +1 for a person willing to help on the
> > task.
> >
> > Some ByLaws alter the default Apache voting time. Sometimes each action
> > has a different timer. Not sure if we want to take this route.
> >
> > When this goes to vote, only the binding votes count. Meaning the 10
> > PPMC members. I would like to recommend these people to participate in
> > the proposal if they disagree.
> >
> > I also welcome any member to participate. This is in a way our community
> > work contract.
> >
> > Please give feedback. Either by DM ( you can be anonymous, I will
> > reference the discussion here ) or reply to this thread.
> >
> > Toni Rikkola
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