Thank you for the initiative, Toni.

We have a parent GH issue: "Migrate KIE Websites to Apache Infrastructure"
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1713

I added a sub-issue : "Migrate drools.org to kie-website" :
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1934

Toshiya


On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 3:23 PM Toni Rikkola <trikk...@redhat.com.invalid>
wrote:

> I can start the work for drools and Toshiya offered help. I can also take
> on Optaplanner.
>
> That leaves jbpm. I know dmn had a site setup, but not sure if we need/want
> a separate section for it in the future?
>
> Toni
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:56 AM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Peanut here.
> >
> > What Toni sez.
> >
> > Right now, an internet search for "drools" returns links to the obsolete
> > drools.org <http://drools.org/> web site, which makes it seem like
> drools
> > is dead. The downloads on the site are years old. Wrong message.
> >
> > I'd suggest to copy any current data still on drools.org <
> > http://drools.org/> to a section on kie.apache.org <
> http://kie.apache.org/>
> > In "no time at all" search engines will notice that drools is now homed
> at
> > kie.
> >
> > Until the domain expires, now redirect drools.org <http://drools.org/>
> to
> > kie.apache.org <http://kie.apache.org/> .
> >
> > Unless this is done, the project is missing out on a lot of possible
> users.
> >
> > Same for other domains that are now kie projects.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Craig
> >
> > > On Apr 24, 2025, at 03:57, Toni Rikkola <trikk...@redhat.com.INVALID>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Right now we have drools.org and kie.apache.org and I guess the same
> > goes
> > > for every other subproject.
> > >
> > > Old sites
> > > * They break the copyrights that Apache now has for KIE.
> > > * They get a lot of hits and the site contents are 1.5 years old.
> > Basically
> > > they say the project is dead, use something else.
> > > * No updates. No mentions of the Apache releases
> > > * Can go down at any moment since this community does not fund them
> > >
> > > New site
> > > * No content
> > >
> > > Both
> > > * No, or minimal, resources to maintain them
> > >
> > > Looking at the fact that it has been years. It is clear we have no
> > > motivation or man power to maintain these. So the question is what is
> the
> > > shortest path to victory?
> > >
> > > My suggestion is we use the domains and forward to kie.apache.org as
> > soon
> > > as possible. Right now the old domains are sending the wrong signal.
> > >
> > > I am sure we have a lot of ideas, but also consider where we get the
> > > resources to implement. For few years there has been none.
> > >
> > > Toni Rikkola
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >
> >
>

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