Hi all,

We have migrated the contents to kie.apache.org.

I'm going to ask the administrator of drools.org web server (Red Hat) to
redirect from https://www.drools.org to https://kie.apache.org/ .

I think this is not something like "proposal" or "vote", so I'm notifying
it here.

If there are no objections for a few days, I'll proceed.

Thanks,
Toshiya

On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 6:09 PM Toni Rikkola <rikk...@apache.org> wrote:

> Current status.
>
> Everything moved or there is an existing PR pending for a move.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1713
>
> The blog will stay where it is. The kie.apache.org can just have the
> product release and other project announcements. Everyone can blog where
> they want and we can even link to those blogs from our Apache site.
>
> kie.org is pretty much just links to blogs, so nothing to move there that
> is not already in kie.apache.org.
>
> There is a separate ticket for documentation. This only moves what is
> worth the move from websites to the new location.
>
> Toni
>
> On 2025/04/28 07:44:50 Toni Rikkola wrote:
> > Thank you Toshiya. I will move Optaplanner.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1936
> >
> > Toni
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 6:50 AM Toshiya Kobayashi <
> > toshiyakobaya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for the initiative, Toni.
> > >
> > > We have a parent GH issue: "Migrate KIE Websites to Apache
> Infrastructure"
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1713
> > >
> > > I added a sub-issue : "Migrate drools.org to kie-website" :
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/1934
> > >
> > > Toshiya
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 3:23 PM Toni Rikkola
> <trikk...@redhat.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can start the work for drools and Toshiya offered help. I can also
> take
> > > > on Optaplanner.
> > > >
> > > > That leaves jbpm. I know dmn had a site setup, but not sure if we
> > > need/want
> > > > a separate section for it in the future?
> > > >
> > > > Toni
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:56 AM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Peanut here.
> > > > >
> > > > > What Toni sez.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now, an internet search for "drools" returns links to the
> > > obsolete
> > > > > drools.org <http://drools.org/> web site, which makes it seem like
> > > > drools
> > > > > is dead. The downloads on the site are years old. Wrong message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd suggest to copy any current data still on drools.org <
> > > > > http://drools.org/> to a section on kie.apache.org <
> > > > http://kie.apache.org/>
> > > > > In "no time at all" search engines will notice that drools is now
> homed
> > > > at
> > > > > kie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Until the domain expires, now redirect drools.org <
> http://drools.org/>
> > > > to
> > > > > kie.apache.org <http://kie.apache.org/> .
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless this is done, the project is missing out on a lot of
> possible
> > > > users.
> > > > >
> > > > > Same for other domains that are now kie projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > > Craig
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 24, 2025, at 03:57, Toni Rikkola
> <trikk...@redhat.com.INVALID
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now we have drools.org and kie.apache.org and I guess the
> same
> > > > > goes
> > > > > > for every other subproject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Old sites
> > > > > > * They break the copyrights that Apache now has for KIE.
> > > > > > * They get a lot of hits and the site contents are 1.5 years old.
> > > > > Basically
> > > > > > they say the project is dead, use something else.
> > > > > > * No updates. No mentions of the Apache releases
> > > > > > * Can go down at any moment since this community does not fund
> them
> > > > > >
> > > > > > New site
> > > > > > * No content
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both
> > > > > > * No, or minimal, resources to maintain them
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking at the fact that it has been years. It is clear we have
> no
> > > > > > motivation or man power to maintain these. So the question is
> what is
> > > > the
> > > > > > shortest path to victory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My suggestion is we use the domains and forward to
> kie.apache.org as
> > > > > soon
> > > > > > as possible. Right now the old domains are sending the wrong
> signal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am sure we have a lot of ideas, but also consider where we get
> the
> > > > > > resources to implement. For few years there has been none.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Toni Rikkola
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig L Russell
> > > > > c...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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