Hi everyone,

A quick update on the 10.3.x+ stream implementation.

The Kogito-Runtimes merge into Drools is now ready for review [1] with a green 
CI. I'm currently targeting a merge date of Wednesday, July 22, morning CET.

Feedback and reviews are very welcome.

Additionally, the kogito-apps merge is already underway; I'll raise that PR 
once the Kogito-Runtimes merge goes in.

Thanks,
Kennedy

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-drools/pull/6804

On 2026/07/10 07:04:41 Kennedy Bowers wrote:
> The PR has been merged; OptaPlanner code now lives in the Drools repo! One 
> repo down as part of our 10.3.x consolidation!
> 
> The OptaPlanner repository will be archived shortly. For anyone with open PRs 
> targeting the OptaPlanner repository: please update your PRs to target the 
> appropriate path within the new merged structure (optaplanner-* directories 
> inside the Drools repo). The old OptaPlanner repo will remain available in 
> read-only/archived form for reference.
> 
> I'll be creating the kogito-runtimes merge PR later today. Chinchu, if you'd 
> like to test that one out in IntelliJ to check for the performance concerns 
> you raised, feel free to grab it once it's posted; your feedback would be 
> really valuable.
> 
> As for kogito-apps, that's currently in progress. I can share a branch here 
> once it's ready if you (or anyone else) would like to test it as well.
> 
> Thank you all for your feedback and reviews!
> 
> Kennedy
> 
> 
> On 2026/07/09 05:47:13 Chinchu P Shaji via dev wrote:
> > Thanks, Tiago.
> > 
> > 
> > I'll take a look and see how it behaves in the IDE.
> > 
> > If I find anything noteworthy, I'll report back to the group.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > 
> > Chinchu P Shaji
> > 
> > 
> > From: Tiago Bento <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, 9 July 2026 at 1:27 AM
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Chinchu P Shaji <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UPDATES] 10.3.x+ stream implementation
> > 
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> > Chinchu,
> > 
> > This branch is kind of outdated and might not be 100% on every aspecs, but 
> > you can use it to test it out and address your concerns:
> > https://github.com/tiagobento/incubator-kie-drools/tree/kogito-apps-merge<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tiagobento_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_tree_kogito-2Dapps-2Dmerge&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=1lRULJLTWzy2XZh6meqUtcZaOqQuEWPRaj9FUII75v_dHM4_dqdRZFn5-I1Gpd3d&s=_s0hneQlW__b57ecJIFsceBp1VYaAEAbKzRMsYFot80&e=>
> > 
> > Please report back your findings. Thanks for getting involved!
> > 
> > Kennedy,
> > 
> > If you have more up-to-date branches people can use to test please share 
> > them too.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Tiago Bento
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 09:35 Chinchu P Shaji via dev 
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > Kudos to Kennedy for driving this effort forward and keeping everyone 
> > updated throughout the process. It's great to see the progress being made 
> > toward the 10.3.x initiative, and thanks to everyone who contributed 
> > reviews, feedback, and testing along the way.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, building on the point Gabriele raised earlier regarding IntelliJ 
> > behavior, it's encouraging that the OptaPlanner merge itself loads and runs 
> > smoothly in IntelliJ. My only concern is around the later stages of the 
> > consolidation, particularly once kogito-runtimes and kogito-appsare brought 
> > into the same repository. At that point, the overall project size and 
> > number of modules could have a bigger impact on IntelliJ performance.
> > 
> > 
> > We're currently seeing a similar challenge with the BAMOE repository, where 
> > IntelliJ can become difficult to work with due to project size, and many of 
> > us end up using VS Code instead. It may be worth keeping this aspect in 
> > mind as the remaining repository merges progress, so we can ensure the 
> > developer experience remains smooth for those using IntelliJ.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks again, and looking forward to seeing this initiative move ahead.
> > 
> > Chinchu P Shaji
> > 
> > From: Kennedy Bowers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Date: Wednesday, 8 July 2026 at 12:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UPDATES] 10.3.x+ stream implementation
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for the reviews and feedback on the PR.
> > 
> > We now have the necessary approvals, so I'm planning to merge this Friday 
> > morning (CET), July 10 to give people a couple of days to prepare for the 
> > change. OptaPlanner will be archived at the same time.
> > 
> > To recap: this merges OptaPlanner into the Drools repository as part of the 
> > 10.3.x initiative, with kogito-runtimes and kogito-apps to follow shortly 
> > after.
> > 
> > As a side note, I tested the merged repository on IntelliJ and everything 
> > was running smoothly. Thanks Gabriele for raising this.
> > 
> > Please let me know if anything comes up between now and then. Thanks again 
> > for all the help getting this across the line.
> > 
> > Kennedy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 2026/07/02 14:54:18 Gabriele Cardosi wrote:
> > > Thanks Kennedy for the update.
> > > While you are at the task, has anybody verified how IDE (e.g. IntelliJ)
> > > behaves with this new merged repository ? I'm thinking about possible
> > > issues on project loading, source scanning, and whatever that all the
> > > java-oriented IDE usually does to improve development experience.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Gabriele
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2026 at 12:44 PM Kennedy Bowers 
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > A quick update on the 10.3.x+ stream implementation.
> > > >
> > > > The OptaPlanner merge into Drools is now ready for review [1]
> > > >
> > > > Feedback and reviews are very welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, the kogito-runtimes merge is already underway; I'll raise
> > > > that PR once the OptaPlanner merge goes in.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kennedy
> > > >
> > > > [1] 
> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6762&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=orBD0YW151jH_1lf7ZyjOrs_6-dOG_gMIEDu6zV65y4&e=
> > > >
> > > > On 2026/04/29 21:40:00 Tiago Bento wrote:
> > > > > PRs on my last email are merged. Thanks for the reviews!
> > > > >
> > > > > Next I'll be tackling the new CI system for
> > > > > `apache/incubator-kie-drools`, so that we can safely move OptaPlanner
> > > > > and Kogito repos inside it, before we rename it to KIE.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:54 PM Tiago Bento
> > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last week I ended up merging
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dtools_pull_3540&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=nSiEDnBCBytSStHznsLt-TTLQXvfwd9SOxrmvxJk-_g&e=
> > > > > >   before I had a
> > > > > > chance to send an update here. Please let me know if any workflow 
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > interrupted because of this premature merge and I'll make sure we 
> > > > > > find
> > > > > > a solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This week I plan to merge the following PRs by Wednesday EOD if
> > > > > > they're all green and approved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - 
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6663&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=0UehVP8mev2dtc8DsrbnQePGAPMVBqs6VABBwCSdeGM&e=
> > > > > > - 
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Druntimes_pull_4255&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=U3v0VGLnOTUtVutdatiM1gFJcnUUKsBUIXYfWCb8OlA&e=
> > > > > > - 
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Dapps_pull_2320&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=uJqYX4DDaSRKgKCVJP6bwh0wu11sl_z12uYnS5mxZ-o&e=
> > > > > > - 
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Dexamples_pull_2205&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=JIhlz9dPc9aUYNLQRUx15PqKJzSiHh8cJQ93LYdwCac&e=
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 6:08 AM Kennedy 
> > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As mentioned in the previous thread about this subject [1], I'm
> > > > kicking off
> > > > > > > this thread where we plan to keep everyone informed of dates when
> > > > things
> > > > > > > will be removed, renamed, replaced or decommissioned. We'll also
> > > > share
> > > > > > > periodic updates about the implementation progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The plan can be found in kie-issues#2285 [2].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please use the 10.3.x-stream thread on Zulip [3] for 
> > > > > > > collaborating!
> > > > Let's
> > > > > > > keep this thread information only.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you, and stay tuned!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kennedy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] 
> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apache.org_thread_dnzqy22q9bvfvwl5t1hokywj8b5cn3ym&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=v2HsKh7vBuTZKX2bgWqEj4oNXYdV6eXJ_xWKJO9wqEk&e=
> > > > > > > [2] 
> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dissues_issues_2285&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=89XKL0s8J7OZ3ArnEuFb6bK-UXVBn22ActLBiEk_q6E&e=
> > > > > > > [3]
> > > > > > >
> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__kie.zulipchat.com_-23narrow_channel_386449-2Dkie-2Ddev_topic_10.2E3.2Ex-2Dstream.20Thread_with_590672378&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=qnr11hkPd7NzUClui1J0a_oaioJQokRfm4Mbil9M_Ww&e=
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