Hi everyone,

A quick follow-up on the kogito-apps merge [1].

With two approvals already in, CI green, and only one open PR remaining against 
kogito-apps, I'd like to bring the merge date forward from Friday July 31st to 
Wednesday July 29th, morning CET to accelerate the 10.3.x timeline. The code 
freeze would move accordingly to Wednesday July 29th at 8 AM CET.

Many thanks to Chinchu for the IntelliJ testing and the kind words, much 
appreciated!

If the earlier timeline causes any issues for you or your open PRs, please let 
me know as soon as possible and we'll work something out.

Thanks,
Kennedy

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-drools/pull/6834

On 2026/07/27 06:20:51 Chinchu P Shaji via dev wrote:
> Hi Kennedy,
> 
> Thanks for the update, and congratulations on getting the kogito-apps merge 
> ready for review.
> 
> As suggested earlier, I tested your fork 
> branch<https://github.com/kbowers-ibm/drools/tree/kogito-apps-merge> in 
> IntelliJ:
> 
> I'm happy to report that the project loaded and worked smoothly in IntelliJ 
> without any significant delays or performance issues. Based on my testing, it 
> looks like we're on the right path with the consolidation effort from a 
> developer experience perspective.
> 
> I'd also like to acknowledge the significant effort you've put into driving 
> this initiative forward and thank you for all the work you've put into it. 
> Looking forward to seeing the final steps completed successfully.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Chinchu P Shaji
> 
> From: Kennedy Bowers <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, 24 July 2026 at 7:47 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [UPDATES] 10.3.x+ stream implementation
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Another update on the 10.3.x+ stream implementation.
> 
> I'm happy to announce that the kogito-apps merge, the last repository in our 
> consolidation effort, is now ready for review [1] with a green CI. I'm 
> targeting a merge date of Friday July 31st. To that end I would propose a 
> code freeze on kogito-apps on July 31st at 8 AM CET. At that point I'll do a 
> final sync and proceed with the merge once the CI is green. Please let me 
> know if there are any concerns/objections to that date/time.
> 
> Any remaining open PRs currently targeting kogito-apps should be retargeted 
> to drools instead once the freeze takes effect.
> 
> Feedback and reviews are very welcome in the meantime.
> 
> Thanks for your continued patience and cooperation throughout this 
> consolidation effort, the end is in sight!
> 
> Kind regards,
> Kennedy
> 
> [1] 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6834&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=zvGaCQCigzZu_BfoWcssbPFwaxNch1xKSJfSlFB3A50Khh7oj6Ycl4EgGiTOy1pC&s=xN7-a0R958ybv0t4air_fgD4e5R4z0MvLVuC8UPohsY&e=
> 
> 
> 
> On 2026/07/22 06:01:12 Kennedy Bowers wrote:
> > The PR has been merged; kogito-runtimes code now lives in the Drools repo! 
> > Another repo down as part of our 10.3.x consolidation!
> >
> > As outlined in yesterday's notice, the code freeze went into effect at 8AM 
> > CET this morning. With no new commits since my latest sync, a clean CI run, 
> > and two approving reviews, I went ahead with the merge as planned.
> >
> > The kogito-runtimes repository will be archived shortly. For anyone with 
> > open PRs targeting the kogito-runtimes repository: please update your PRs 
> > to target the appropriate path within the new merged structure inside the 
> > Drools repo. The old kogito-runtimes repo will remain available in 
> > read-only/archived form for reference.
> >
> > I'll be creating the kogito-apps merge PR later today.
> >
> > Thank you all for your feedback and reviews!
> >
> > Kennedy
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2026/07/21 11:49:45 Kennedy Bowers wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Just a reminder that the kogito-runtimes merge is scheduled to happen 
> > > tomorrow morning CET.
> > > As I haven't received any negative feedback or objections to the proposed 
> > > merge date, I'll be going ahead as planned. If you have any concerns, 
> > > please raise them before 8AM CET tomorrow.
> > >
> > > To prevent any issues with missing history or last-minute CI churn, I 
> > > would like to propose a code freeze on kogito-runtimes tomorrow (22 July) 
> > > at 8AM CET. At that point I'll do a final sync with kogito-runtimes and 
> > > proceed with the merge once CI is green.
> > >
> > > Any remaining open PRs currently targeting kogito-runtimes should then be 
> > > retargeted to drools instead.
> > >
> > > The merge PR is available for review here: 
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6804&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=zvGaCQCigzZu_BfoWcssbPFwaxNch1xKSJfSlFB3A50Khh7oj6Ycl4EgGiTOy1pC&s=Fd6y8HnhgC486VQxvSmWLkrXr6cZo3u9JG1a4MQ-bfU&e=
> > >
> > > Thanks for your patience and cooperation.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Kennedy
> > >
> > > On 2026/07/15 20:09:11 Kennedy Bowers wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > A quick update on the 10.3.x+ stream implementation.
> > > >
> > > > The Kogito-Runtimes merge into Drools is now ready for review [1] with 
> > > > a green CI. I'm currently targeting a merge date of Wednesday, July 22, 
> > > > morning CET.
> > > >
> > > > Feedback and reviews are very welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, the kogito-apps merge is already underway; I'll raise 
> > > > that PR once the Kogito-Runtimes merge goes in.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kennedy
> > > >
> > > > [1] 
> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6804&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=zvGaCQCigzZu_BfoWcssbPFwaxNch1xKSJfSlFB3A50Khh7oj6Ycl4EgGiTOy1pC&s=Fd6y8HnhgC486VQxvSmWLkrXr6cZo3u9JG1a4MQ-bfU&e=
> > > >
> > > > On 2026/07/10 07:04:41 Kennedy Bowers wrote:
> > > > > The PR has been merged; OptaPlanner code now lives in the Drools 
> > > > > repo! One repo down as part of our 10.3.x consolidation!
> > > > >
> > > > > The OptaPlanner repository will be archived shortly. For anyone with 
> > > > > open PRs targeting the OptaPlanner repository: please update your PRs 
> > > > > to target the appropriate path within the new merged structure 
> > > > > (optaplanner-* directories inside the Drools repo). The old 
> > > > > OptaPlanner repo will remain available in read-only/archived form for 
> > > > > reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be creating the kogito-runtimes merge PR later today. Chinchu, 
> > > > > if you'd like to test that one out in IntelliJ to check for the 
> > > > > performance concerns you raised, feel free to grab it once it's 
> > > > > posted; your feedback would be really valuable.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for kogito-apps, that's currently in progress. I can share a 
> > > > > branch here once it's ready if you (or anyone else) would like to 
> > > > > test it as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you all for your feedback and reviews!
> > > > >
> > > > > Kennedy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2026/07/09 05:47:13 Chinchu P Shaji via dev wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks, Tiago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll take a look and see how it behaves in the IDE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I find anything noteworthy, I'll report back to the group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chinchu P Shaji
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Tiago Bento <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Date: Thursday, 9 July 2026 at 1:27 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Chinchu P Shaji <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UPDATES] 10.3.x+ stream implementation
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chinchu,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This branch is kind of outdated and might not be 100% on every 
> > > > > > aspecs, but you can use it to test it out and address your concerns:
> > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tiagobento_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_tree_kogito-2Dapps-2Dmerge&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=zvGaCQCigzZu_BfoWcssbPFwaxNch1xKSJfSlFB3A50Khh7oj6Ycl4EgGiTOy1pC&s=MjniiBP7CQxybajVVbQFrTQ90t28ygORq-2SIa5OCTQ&e=
> > > > > >  
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please report back your findings. Thanks for getting involved!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kennedy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have more up-to-date branches people can use to test please 
> > > > > > share them too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tiago Bento
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 09:35 Chinchu P Shaji via dev 
> > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kudos to Kennedy for driving this effort forward and keeping 
> > > > > > everyone updated throughout the process. It's great to see the 
> > > > > > progress being made toward the 10.3.x initiative, and thanks to 
> > > > > > everyone who contributed reviews, feedback, and testing along the 
> > > > > > way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, building on the point Gabriele raised earlier regarding 
> > > > > > IntelliJ behavior, it's encouraging that the OptaPlanner merge 
> > > > > > itself loads and runs smoothly in IntelliJ. My only concern is 
> > > > > > around the later stages of the consolidation, particularly once 
> > > > > > kogito-runtimes and kogito-appsare brought into the same 
> > > > > > repository. At that point, the overall project size and number of 
> > > > > > modules could have a bigger impact on IntelliJ performance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're currently seeing a similar challenge with the BAMOE 
> > > > > > repository, where IntelliJ can become difficult to work with due to 
> > > > > > project size, and many of us end up using VS Code instead. It may 
> > > > > > be worth keeping this aspect in mind as the remaining repository 
> > > > > > merges progress, so we can ensure the developer experience remains 
> > > > > > smooth for those using IntelliJ.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again, and looking forward to seeing this initiative move 
> > > > > > ahead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chinchu P Shaji
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Kennedy Bowers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 8 July 2026 at 12:19 PM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UPDATES] 10.3.x+ stream implementation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks everyone for the reviews and feedback on the PR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We now have the necessary approvals, so I'm planning to merge this 
> > > > > > Friday morning (CET), July 10 to give people a couple of days to 
> > > > > > prepare for the change. OptaPlanner will be archived at the same 
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To recap: this merges OptaPlanner into the Drools repository as 
> > > > > > part of the 10.3.x initiative, with kogito-runtimes and kogito-apps 
> > > > > > to follow shortly after.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a side note, I tested the merged repository on IntelliJ and 
> > > > > > everything was running smoothly. Thanks Gabriele for raising this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if anything comes up between now and then. 
> > > > > > Thanks again for all the help getting this across the line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kennedy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2026/07/02 14:54:18 Gabriele Cardosi wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks Kennedy for the update.
> > > > > > > While you are at the task, has anybody verified how IDE (e.g. 
> > > > > > > IntelliJ)
> > > > > > > behaves with this new merged repository ? I'm thinking about 
> > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > issues on project loading, source scanning, and whatever that all 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > java-oriented IDE usually does to improve development experience.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > Gabriele
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2026 at 12:44 PM Kennedy Bowers 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A quick update on the 10.3.x+ stream implementation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The OptaPlanner merge into Drools is now ready for review [1]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Feedback and reviews are very welcome.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Additionally, the kogito-runtimes merge is already underway; 
> > > > > > > > I'll raise
> > > > > > > > that PR once the OptaPlanner merge goes in.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Kennedy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] 
> > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6762&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=orBD0YW151jH_1lf7ZyjOrs_6-dOG_gMIEDu6zV65y4&e=
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2026/04/29 21:40:00 Tiago Bento wrote:
> > > > > > > > > PRs on my last email are merged. Thanks for the reviews!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Next I'll be tackling the new CI system for
> > > > > > > > > `apache/incubator-kie-drools`, so that we can safely move 
> > > > > > > > > OptaPlanner
> > > > > > > > > and Kogito repos inside it, before we rename it to KIE.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:54 PM Tiago Bento
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Last week I ended up merging
> > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dtools_pull_3540&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=nSiEDnBCBytSStHznsLt-TTLQXvfwd9SOxrmvxJk-_g&e=
> > > > > > > > > >   before I had a
> > > > > > > > > > chance to send an update here. Please let me know if any 
> > > > > > > > > > workflow was
> > > > > > > > > > interrupted because of this premature merge and I'll make 
> > > > > > > > > > sure we find
> > > > > > > > > > a solution.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This week I plan to merge the following PRs by Wednesday 
> > > > > > > > > > EOD if
> > > > > > > > > > they're all green and approved.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - 
> > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Ddrools_pull_6663&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=0UehVP8mev2dtc8DsrbnQePGAPMVBqs6VABBwCSdeGM&e=
> > > > > > > > > > - 
> > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Druntimes_pull_4255&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=U3v0VGLnOTUtVutdatiM1gFJcnUUKsBUIXYfWCb8OlA&e=
> > > > > > > > > > - 
> > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Dapps_pull_2320&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=uJqYX4DDaSRKgKCVJP6bwh0wu11sl_z12uYnS5mxZ-o&e=
> > > > > > > > > > - 
> > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dkogito-2Dexamples_pull_2205&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=JIhlz9dPc9aUYNLQRUx15PqKJzSiHh8cJQ93LYdwCac&e=
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 6:08 AM Kennedy 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in the previous thread about this subject 
> > > > > > > > > > > [1], I'm
> > > > > > > > kicking off
> > > > > > > > > > > this thread where we plan to keep everyone informed of 
> > > > > > > > > > > dates when
> > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > will be removed, renamed, replaced or decommissioned. 
> > > > > > > > > > > We'll also
> > > > > > > > share
> > > > > > > > > > > periodic updates about the implementation progress.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The plan can be found in kie-issues#2285 [2].
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Please use the 10.3.x-stream thread on Zulip [3] for 
> > > > > > > > > > > collaborating!
> > > > > > > > Let's
> > > > > > > > > > > keep this thread information only.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, and stay tuned!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Kennedy
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > [1] 
> > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apache.org_thread_dnzqy22q9bvfvwl5t1hokywj8b5cn3ym&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=v2HsKh7vBuTZKX2bgWqEj4oNXYdV6eXJ_xWKJO9wqEk&e=
> > > > > > > > > > > [2] 
> > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dkie-2Dissues_issues_2285&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=Q6vLAuW9efZUIpzkybJzdGQcnEzNk9UeYj-IzYzMKJA&m=7T6Nkv7LJRBvP-uMiYhLA7hkPs2cxC4IXT4fnDgguJ9hd44Onbzq8L2XGaAndorr&s=89XKL0s8J7OZ3ArnEuFb6bK-UXVBn22ActLBiEk_q6E&e=
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