+1 On Mar 21, 2013 1:57 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Kevin, > > So, implied in your statements are that you would like to be the release > manager for Apache Knox (incubating) <first version #>. > > You've got my +1. > > I'll leave this thread open for 48+ hrs and if I don't hear objections > to my proposal (based on your implication) then let's assume you can be > the initial RM. > > Fair enough? > > Cheers > Chris > > > On 3/20/13 4:00 PM, "Kevin Minder" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >So in trying to get ready to do a release I do really need help figuring > >out a few things. Clearly trying to figure it all out myself is > >inappropriate. > > > >1. LICENSE and NOTICE - I think I know what to do but how do I know if > >I'm right? Will someone be auditing this? > >2. Artifact signatures - No idea how this is typically done for a Java > >project. Any pointers? > >3. What else needs to be in place to initiate a release vote? > > > >So basically I'm personally interested in starting the process of > >releasing 0.2.0. How knows how many RCs it will take. Do we need to > >vote on starting that? > > > >On 3/20/13 6:53 PM, Kevin Minder wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, > >> Lets see, this is all just a symptom of me learning the ropes here and > >> transitioning into the open development mode. So let me address each > >> point I believed was raised so that I get concrete feedback about how > >> to improve and proceed. > >> > >> 1. Snapshot upload > >> > >> I certainly understand the "second class" citizen concern here and I > >> was concerned about it myself. At the time I thought my only option > >> was a private email about the upload. I thought that was worse that > >> discussing it publically. Ideally I would expect these type of > >> frequent snapshot distributions to be built via CI. We don't have > >> that setup yet. I will file a Jira for that but given the information > >> I received in the general@incubator thread this seemed like it could > >> take awhile. In the meantime I like Alan's suggestion of uploading to > >> apache.org/~kminder. I'll do that and send another email. > >> > >> 2. Release vote > >> > >> We want to avoid co-development at all costs too but at the same time > >> we still need to make progresss, name and cut "unofficial releases" to > >> evaluate both at Hortonworks and also to court potential community > >> members. What should we be calling these to stay within the rules? I > >> specifically left the SNAPSHOT in everything as an attempt. I expect > >> that there is still significant work that needs to be done to create > >> something that will pass legal for an official Apache release. I have > >> more work to do to understand exactly what needs to be in the LICENSE > >> and NOTICE files at a minimum. When that was done I was planning on > >> asking about calling for a vote. > >> > >> 3. v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1 > >> > >> We had all of our history from the GitHub repository imported into the > >> Apache Git repo where we have continued working. Therefore there are > >> existing tags for the v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1 so I thought it made the > >> most sense to continue on. I do acknowledge in hindsight that this is > >> something that should have been discussed. > >> > >> 3. Co-development > >> > >> There is no active private repository for this. Everything is being > >> committed to the Apache git repo at this point. Larry and I in > >> particular need to find the right balance between high bandwidth brain > >> storming (e.g. face:face, IM, phone) and email discussions on dev@knox. > >> > >> 4. Jira > >> > >> Devarj filed INFRA-5922 on March 1st to have Jira setup. I would much > >> rather be using the Apache Jira so anything that can be done to speed > >> that up would be appreciated. I'll take the reference to the > >> Hortonworks Jira out of the docs and I guess we will just have to keep > >> track of any issues discovered in email. I'll come up with some email > >> subject convention (e.g. [BUG]) > >> > >> Continued feedback appreciated. > >> Kevin. > >> > >> On 3/20/13 5:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > >>> Hey Guys, > >>> > >>> RE: #3, after looking at it in more detail, we need to remove > >>>references > >>> to internal Hortonworks JIRA's in our Apache documentation. I realize > >>> Hortonworks > >>> people have their own company systems, etc. Those should not be > >>>confused > >>> with their Apache (!Hortonworks) counterparts. > >>> > >>> Do we have an Apache Knox JIRA? If not, I would be glad to request one. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> On 3/20/13 2:46 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Kevin, > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what this email means, but I'm worried by its context. > >>>> > >>>> Are you suggesting that you have released a version of Apache Knox, > >>>> with > >>>> a version # 0.2.0? > >>>> > >>>> If so, then I have the following statements/questions: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Apache releases are VOTEd on by the Apache Knox PPMC and by the > >>>> Apache > >>>> Incubator PMC > >>>> (whose VOTEs are the binding ones in this process atm). Unless I > >>>>missed > >>>> it, > >>>> I didn't see a VOTE thread, so I'm not sure how you released Apache > >>>> Knox. > >>>> See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html > >>>> Small note: where is RC1? > >>>> > >>>> 2. It looks like there is development occurring internally at > >>>> Hortonworks > >>>> here. > >>>> Why? Co-developing wastes community resources. All of you guys here > >>>> that > >>>> are interested > >>>> in the project should be developing here. Of course there are naming > >>>> issues, etc., > >>>> associated with this, but more importantly there are community > >>>> issues. So > >>>> I request > >>>> clarification on this. > >>>> > >>>> 3. Great job on the documentation! > >>>> > >>>> Looking forward to the clarifications. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 3/20/13 2:35 PM, "Kevin Minder" <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Everyone, > >>>>> I decided to cut and share v0.2.0 RC2 of the gateway. I tagged the > >>>>> repo > >>>>> with v0.2.0-rc2. > >>>>> > >>>>> For those in Hortonworks I uploaded a ZIP here > >>>>> > >>>>> > https://docs.google.com/a/hortonworks.com/file/d/0BzcmnaxIHtiAZkxhQWZC > >>>>>Q21 > >>>>> > >>>>> y > >>>>> WTA/edit > >>>>> > >>>>> Everyone else should be able to create their own following these > >>>>> instructions. > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/release-process.html > >>>>> > >>>>> The Apache site is starting to come along. > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Of particular interest are the links in the Documentation section > >>>>> of the > >>>>> left Nav bar. > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/getting-started.html > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/examples.html > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/client.html > >>>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/sandbox.html > >>>>> > >>>>> I wrote and reorganized a bunch of documentation over the last few > >>>>> days > >>>>> and I haven't "tested" all of it yet. So there may need to be some > >>>>> tweaks there and an RC3. Functionally however the more eyes the > >>>>> better > >>>>> so give it a spin. We are especially interested in feedback. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kevin. > >> > > > >
