El mar, 31-01-2006 a las 23:48 -0600, Antonio Gallardo escribió: > Hi folks, > > Amazing word soup, guys! :-)
yeah ;) > > Michael Wechner wrote: > > > Thorsten Scherler wrote > > > >> People often see you as a mentor in this project and what you say is > >> important to them. If you suggest (like yourself admitted) that people > >> should retire if they not doing a release then this can be > >> misinterpreted as an official statement. > > > > it's my personal opinion > > Thorsten is right. Project founders have more impact in the people > perception. On the other side, Michael already stated this is only his > POV. As he stated it is not an "official Lenya PMC position". :-) > .... <a_big_fat_highly_spicy_word_soup> ..... > > Let me explain, why I think people should retire if > > they don't want to accept rules and keep up with certain duties: > > What I wonder the whole time is, what do you mean by retire? I understand under this to devote their status to "Inactive (or former WyonaCMS) committers", right? > > We are a group of people (having goals) living in a house. > > In order to be able to live together we decide on some rules > > (with reasons behind, whereas the reasons are more important than > > the rules themselves) and normally some duties attached. > > > > > In the case of the ASF or the Apache Lenya community most of these rules > > are not written down, but they do exist, e.g. > > > > - Write reports for the board > > - Backwards compatibility for certain branches > > - ... > > Until here, I think everybody more or less agree..... every committer > has a vote and his vote depends on his commitment level [1], but I am > not going to go deeper.... > > > and my personal opinion is that collaborating on release management > > should be a rule as well. The reason for this rule is that regular > > releases are important such that people can base their stuff on > > something "static". > > OK. Again this is only your opinion. Thanks for sharing it! :-) > > > But doing the releases is not a lot of fun > > and won't give a lot of recognition/appreciation or whatsoever, > > so it's not such a big incentive for the individual doing such > > a release, but it's important for the community at large. > > > > (everyone wants to cook and eat, but nobody wants to do the dishes). > > Money might be an incentive, but we don't have money. So what can we > > do?!?! > > What I saw in few years working in open source projects: > Release manager is very important. The RMs get fast and high people > recognition. Users often note the name of the person releasing the code. > They are often looking for the person, who sent the release note. Hence, > the users think the release manager is one of the most important > committers in a project. That means recognition and the recognition is > often the incentive. The proof are our PMC Chairs. Both have been RM before becoming Chair. So as well committers recognize this. > He becomes a hot spot. He get visibility and thanks > to the current Open Source boom, the money can follow this recognition. ;-) jeje > Just a random tought. Thanks for sharing it. Another one: We should ask http://www.canonical.com/ to sponsor our releases like they do with http://www.ubuntu.com/ "Ubuntu comes with full commercial support from hundreds of companies around the world. Ubuntu is released regularly and predictably; a new release is made every six months. Each release is supported with free security updates and fixes for at least 18 months." wdyt? salu2 -- thorsten "Together we stand, divided we fall!" Hey you (Pink Floyd) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
