Ross Gardler wrote:
Michael Wechner wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
What have fairness to do with my proposal?
because it's fair to start with a blank sheet of paper, because there
is not advantage for no side.
WOW!!!! Sides???
sure, there are sides or you might want call the opinions. Otherwise we
wouldn't have this discussion
If there are really "sides" in this community then you guys need to be
real careful or your community will implode.
agreed
Please, everyone get a grip here, the facts are:
1) Lenya is required to have Project Guidlines by the ASF
2) The guidelines need to be discussed and agreed by *everyone*
3) How the discussion is started is irrelevant
no, it's not irrelevant at all. If you want to start a fair discussion,
then one should start with
a blank sheet of paper, otherwise you are imposing something from the
very beginning
Please, allow me, as an outsider with no "side" at all, to make a
suggestion to help move things on from here:
1) Take a blank piece of paper (well an blank email, with a subject of
[DISCUSS] Lenya Project Guidelines
very much agreed (but please no email)
2) Collect the URLs of a number of project guidelines and add them to
the top of the blank page - clearly mark them as "for inspiration and
research and encourage others to add to the list
agreed
3) Take the headings suggested for the contents list by Michi and add
them to the almost blank page
agreed
4) Add the bits under these headings that are deemed to be appropriate
from other projects in the ASF, be sure to reference back to the
source so others can follow and encourage others to add (not remove)
other important parts from other guidelines they have read
agreed
5) discuss on the mail list
agreed
6) create a draft (this is where you try and create words representing
the agreement)
7) repeat steps 5 and 6 until there is agreement
8) vote
9) add any missing headers and repeat steps 3 through 8
I hope this helps get out of the current stalemate.
thanks for your input
Michi
Ross
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