Comiotto Thomas wrote:
where do you see the advantages resp. disadvantages of Alfresco?
I think it would be nice if you could post a short summary such that
the Lenya community
can learn from it.
Maybe you too can post a short summary of the directions you take /
priorities you set with yanel?
sure, please take a look at
http://yanel.wyona.org/principles.html
http://yanel.wyona.org/en/about.html
http://yanel.wyona.org/roadmap.html
whereas I think one of the most important is not really formulated
explicitely:
I think a CMS such as for instance Lenya is being developed for
people/companies actually using it or maybe in other words the "customer
is king"
(a Google search resulted in
http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/10/magazines/fortune/rule3.fortune/index.htm
;-)
and it's not about money necessarily.
But it means it's business driven and not development driven and it
seems to me that developers have a very hard time
accepting this (myself included), but it seems to me like a fact and I
think it's important that one is able to accept this
and find ways how to deal with it.
I don't want to point any fingers or complain about it anymore, but this
just doesn't seem to work out with some of the Lenya developers, whereas
maybe the mindset has changed by today and I hope that will help Lenya
to overcome it's problems resp.
getting a nice release out very soon. But some time ago this wasn't the
case and I didn't see any change happening, so I decided to start
something new instead having endless discussions or commit wars.
Maybe we will fail with Yanel and fall into the same traps, but at least
we gave it a try.
Yanel is Open Source and also Apache lincense 2.0, so everyone can check
it out and learn from it if one wants to.
Also all communication is done on public mailing lists and decision
making is fully transparent.
You did drop cocoon and created your own small xml application server
for yanel, didn't you?
we don't use Cocoon as a core component, but I still believe the
pipeline principle is a great thing and we will
definitely use it somehow. Also Lenya has some very nice principles
which are still valid.
We might be able to learn from that too, besides that IIRC you never
pointed out exactly what made you start writing another cms and
moving away from using lenya for customer projects.
I thought it would have been obvious from the various emails I wrote,
but if not, then I will be happy to explain.
Apart from the technical issues there are also human issues, but I don't
think it's good idea to discuss this, because
it probably just ends up in a flame war and won't be very constructive.
I think what counts is what people have learned from it and if people do
it differently now.
This might be a chance to make up for this one.
make up for what?
Cheers
Michi
Cheers
Thomas
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