hi,

I would like to join Lior's sentiment.

We would also like to get @JB and @Davor's feedback on the release related
concern.

I took ownership on reading the apache guidelines, creating the internal
release procedure, and pushing the packages to PyPI.
So, I take responsibility for any mistakes or transgressions.

We read the apache guidelines here
<http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html>, and interpreted the
guidelines as follows:

1. We are allowed to create internal dev. releases (e.g. "nightly") without
following an official apache release.  We put them in pypi so that
community members can easily build a local working apache liminal env.
Based on Justin's input, it seems that this was not acceptable, is that the
case?

2. When we want to release an official version, we need to follow the
process of voting on a release candidate, and finally releasing an official
version. We created these
<https://github.com/apache/incubator-liminal/blob/master/dev/RELEASE.md>
guidelines for the project (heavily inspired by Airflow's
<https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/master/dev/README.md>)
It would be very helpful if you could take a look and give us feedback on
our guidelines document.


Thank you,

Assaf

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:48 AM Lior Schachter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Justin, JB,
> Apologies for missing the podling report. It is completely my fault. Will
> make sure this won't happen again.
> Re release procedures and approval- we will take it with the mentors and
> align to the Apache standards.
>
> Regards,
> Lior
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:30 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > I’m sharing your thoughts. I also have concern with Apache relationship
> > and project community. For sure, I was not active enough on the podling.
> > Davor provided little help, but definitely, the podling needs more
> guidance.
> >
> > I was expected some requests, and I pinged couple of times with no
> answer.
> >
> > Let me ping the team a new time.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > > Le 15 déc. 2020 à 01:52, Justin Mclean <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm have a few concerns about this project and hopefully someone can
> > help me and explain what is going on.
> > >
> > > Liminal has missed a number of board reports.
> > >
> > > I can also see that you are making unapproved releases here [1] that
> are
> > available to the general public. your instructions [2] point people to
> that
> > site. This is not how an Apache project makes releases. Can you please
> > discuss on list with help from your mentors how this will be corrected.
> > Please refer to releases policy [3][4] on what the right thing to do is.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. https://pypi.org/project/apache-liminal/0.0.1.dev8/#history
> > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-liminal/blob/master/README.md
> > > 3. https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#releases
> > > 4. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html
> > >
> >
> >
>

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