Hi guys,

First of all, my apologizes: I’ve been busy on other projects and was not a 
good mentor.

Let me fix that and be active with you all.

I gonna start by reviewing the release (especially legal, source dist, etc).

Don’t hesitate to ping me here or on Slack to move forward.

Regards
JB

> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 11:55, Assaf Pinhasi <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> hi,
> 
> I would like to join Lior's sentiment.
> 
> We would also like to get @JB and @Davor's feedback on the release related
> concern.
> 
> I took ownership on reading the apache guidelines, creating the internal
> release procedure, and pushing the packages to PyPI.
> So, I take responsibility for any mistakes or transgressions.
> 
> We read the apache guidelines here
> <http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html>, and interpreted the
> guidelines as follows:
> 
> 1. We are allowed to create internal dev. releases (e.g. "nightly") without
> following an official apache release.  We put them in pypi so that
> community members can easily build a local working apache liminal env.
> Based on Justin's input, it seems that this was not acceptable, is that the
> case?
> 
> 2. When we want to release an official version, we need to follow the
> process of voting on a release candidate, and finally releasing an official
> version. We created these
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-liminal/blob/master/dev/RELEASE.md>
> guidelines for the project (heavily inspired by Airflow's
> <https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/master/dev/README.md>)
> It would be very helpful if you could take a look and give us feedback on
> our guidelines document.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Assaf
> 
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:48 AM Lior Schachter <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Justin, JB,
>> Apologies for missing the podling report. It is completely my fault. Will
>> make sure this won't happen again.
>> Re release procedures and approval- we will take it with the mentors and
>> align to the Apache standards.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Lior
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:30 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Justin,
>>> 
>>> I’m sharing your thoughts. I also have concern with Apache relationship
>>> and project community. For sure, I was not active enough on the podling.
>>> Davor provided little help, but definitely, the podling needs more
>> guidance.
>>> 
>>> I was expected some requests, and I pinged couple of times with no
>> answer.
>>> 
>>> Let me ping the team a new time.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>>> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 01:52, Justin Mclean <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm have a few concerns about this project and hopefully someone can
>>> help me and explain what is going on.
>>>> 
>>>> Liminal has missed a number of board reports.
>>>> 
>>>> I can also see that you are making unapproved releases here [1] that
>> are
>>> available to the general public. your instructions [2] point people to
>> that
>>> site. This is not how an Apache project makes releases. Can you please
>>> discuss on list with help from your mentors how this will be corrected.
>>> Please refer to releases policy [3][4] on what the right thing to do is.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. https://pypi.org/project/apache-liminal/0.0.1.dev8/#history
>>>> 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-liminal/blob/master/README.md
>>>> 3. https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#releases
>>>> 4. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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