On Saturday 17 March 2007 11:39, Marcin Miłkowski wrote:
> Hi Graham,
>
> Graham Lauder napisał(a):
> >>> 2. Contact the Wordnet people and ask them if there's a way to
> >>> contribute Commonwealth words in a way they are marked in the data,
> >>> i.e. they can be filtered out for those who don't want them.
> >>>
> >>> 2 is clearly the better solution. Thanks for your offer to host the
> >>> thesaurus, but the technical hosting is actually the easy part. What is
> >>> needed for a good long-term solution is someone who's willing to work
> >>> on solution 2 above.
> >
> > Sorry but solution 2 is not a solution at all.  Princeton is dealing with
> > th_en_US and I presume th_en_GB not en_NZ or for that matter AU and ZA
> > and so on
>
> If you want to build an English thesaurus that is better than Wordnet,
> then, well, good luck, but remember - you have been warned.

Warned?  about what?  If the Wordnet list is Opensource then what is the 
issue?

>
> I'd recommend searching for local English Wordnets (or similar
> linguistic projects), maybe there are Australian versions. 

I've already done that, those that I've seen are small operations run by a 
single enthusiast on a small backroom server that has a single point of 
failure.  

My client is a large Multinational corporate that runs the largest 
distribution network in NZ and Australia that includes Rail, Shipping, Air 
and Road.  The ISS department with which I deal employs 70 highly skilled IT 
staff.  Without exception, they identified the thesaurus as a weak link in 
OOo and as such are offering to help solve this problem.

This is NOT a trivial offer, this is an opportunity for the project to develop 
the Thesaurus component in OOo.   My Client will assign space on their 
servers,  a Project Manager to look after the project and so forth  

>Trying to
> build a new thesaurus from scratch is simply futile. 

It's a good thing Mr Roget didn't think that.

>See:
>
> http://www.globalwordnet.org/


There is a  problem in the thesaurus implementation in OOo. Setting OOo to 
English (UK) in options>languages results in the thesaurus being greyed out.  
The assumption then is that there is no thesaurus installed for that 
localisation... ie English English.  Given that this is the source of all 
English variations, not having a Thesaurus is patently absurd.  therefore 
wordnet is not doing the job and a fix is  needed

Right now all I see is barriers that need removing 

If therefore Openthesaurus is a bad option, the assumption I take from what 
you are saying is; setting up a local Wordnet is the best alternative.  

Does that allow for community input?
What is the step from Wordnet Database to installed Thesaurus in OOo?
Where can I find someone who can exchange emails with my clients people to get 
them under way 



Cheers
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