My impression is also that an "all in one" English dictionaries approach is
a good way to handle this issue.  One extension in the extension manager is
much cleaner and less confusing for users.

However, I thought that there is nothing to stop there being two different
Hyphenation dictionaries in there: one for US only, one for other locales of
English.  I thought it is just a matter of making an extra entry in the
dictionaries.xcu file for this? I am looking at the OOov3.0.0 version to
make this conclusion, so maybe something has changed.

Robert

2008/12/11 Mathias Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Németh László wrote:
>
> > Hi Mathias,
> >
> > 2008/12/8 Mathias Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> Hi László,
> >>
> >> Németh László wrote:
> >>
> >> > It seems, within a few days I will finish the morphological extension
> of
> >> the
> >> > en_US dictionary (converting the morphological data of Wordlist
> project).
> >>
> >> Great!
> >
> >
> > I will send it next day. (I had to fix some problems in the CWS, too.)
> >
> >
> >>> I'm still waiting for a plan how to upload all pre-bundled dictionaries
> >>> to our repository. But that's the second step.
> >>
> >> I think, it's possible to upload all official (accepted and preferred by
> > NLP
> >> projects) extensions from
> >> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/automatically with the
> >> required database and updating mechanism/script in
> >> the repository.
> >
> >> Sorry, I was talking about how we can bring all dictionaries that are
> >> committed to svn and are bundled with the different localized builds to
> >> the extension repository. This needs some work to do.
> >
> >
> > It seems, some bundled dictionary extensions are attached to the relevant
> > issues for verification, so they are already stored in an open
> repository.
> > They need an updated link or registration on extensions.services site
> yet.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > Unfortunately, English (variants) have no NLP projects yet
> >> > (this was a topic of the last OOo conference). For American English, I
> >> will
> >> > make an official en_US extension maintained by Wordlist project
> >> (members).
> >>
> >> The OOo bundled dictionary does intentionally have only an "en"
> >> dictionary, not a "en-US", "en-GB" etc. because they share hyphenation
> >> and thesaurus. I would like to keep it that way and so I would like to
> >> update the bundled dictionary with your new files. And of course in case
> >> of updates I would also like to provide "en" dictionaries, not "en-US".
> >> Does that make sense?
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't. But using common (i. e. British) hyphenation patterns is
> a
> > mistake, because American and British English have different hyphenation
> > rules, see http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=oddhyphen.
> There
> > is an improved en_US pattern file in the last hyphen distribution:
> > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/hunspell/hyphen-2.4.tar.gz, (also
> attached
> > here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90028).
>
> Well, there are also canadian, australian and south african english that
> we are serving with our extension. We have spelling dictionaries for
> them, but no hyphenation dictionaries and no thesaurus. So my take on
> that was: better use the en-US thesaurus and the en-GB hyphenation than
> nothing!
>
> So how can be serve the users best? We don't offer any other english
> builds than en-US, so we have to bundle the other english dictionaries
> with the en-US build also. Having 4 extensions except one would clutter
> the extension manager UI and - as I said - wastes space. So for me
> staying with one "english-all" dictionary extension is the best option.
>
> Ciao,
> Mathias
>
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