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not as nightmarish as cfdev.com home of activedit, it's bloody abysmal -
have they been bought out?
*grumble*
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Awful site.
Can I figure out to change my password, like hell can I.
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In the not so user friendly issue tracker .. (click query
database, then submit query)
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectIssues
Looks like some of your requests/enhancements have already
been logged:
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52
HTH
K
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Ok, where does one make a feature request
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Funnily enough the list of cf functions is one of the things I
missed but recently have found I no longer need it (although I do
admittedly have to some times refer to
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/functio
n.htm#wp308286
2)
It might be an idea to add a feature request. Did I mention there
are 2 in-built browsers - one of these I requested (and
was it was
added almost the next day) specifically for referring to online
help.
K
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Seeing as u made a comment on the word wrap, I'll just
point out why I
find it useful.
When I have to edit pages where lines are really long,
2 or more
screens wide, it is a royal pain scrolling left and right
as well as
up and down and you can often totally miss a bit of
code you are
looking for. So turning on word wrap to get all your cod
eon the page
is useful for that purpose, even if it is messy.
I will certainly persevere with it a bit longer, but
some things I
really have trouble living without, like the tag editor and
right click insert.
Surely No-one can remember every possible tag and
function and all
their attributes, especially seeing as some tags have tons of
attributes, and a lot of them are rarely used.
So those two features make life a lot easier.
E.G.
I have a list, I want to find an item in the list, I wonder
if there
is a function to do that.
Right click, insert expression, pull up a list of all the
functions,
look down the list, Ah Listfind(), that looks like the
one I need.
I am still using functions I have never used before
even now. With
CFEclipse, I will either have to refer to docs more often,
which take
a LOT longer, or memorise all tags, functions and attributes.
Russ
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Russ
You're right some of the things in your list are missing -
search and replace is in there, indent is in there (highlight
the code block and then press tab), there is no page split and
(thankfully?)
no word wrap, no code sweeper and no RDS (MM wont open it up)
but the great thing about CFeclipse is that its open source
so who knows
who will come along and implement all those features
in the next
month.
You can add bookmarks and descriptions to files which
is a bit
better than line highlight, you can also type TODO and have
items added to a todo list, as pointed out help goes to
livedocs which in
my opinion is actually better than the stale help
available within
cfstudio/homesite.
But there is also a code outline view which homesite does
not have
as well a method view which lists all the methods for
a cfc and
allows you to jump to the selected method.
I'ts not for everyone but give it a try I'm sure you'll
get used to
it. For more info join the users cfeclipse mailing list @
http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
Or have a butchers at spike's blog
http://www.spike.org.uk/cfeclipse/space/start
HTH
Did I mention it also pours pints? ;-) Kola
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OK for the purpose of editing NON CF code, I can see the
advantages of
using eclipse. But I am talking about the CFECLIPSE plugin
specifically here.
When I tried it, I found a lot of things missing that I
like about
homesite.
Here are 10 I can think of form the top of my head
1) right click insert tag/function
2) right click tag editor
3) button toolbars
4) extended search/replace
5) page split
6) word wrap
7) break points/line hilite (very useful in big pages for
bookmarking
a
line)
8) indent/unindent
9) codesweeper
10) RDS features, such as database browser
So far as I can see, eclipse if a great all round
editor, but is
no replacement for homesite as a dedicated coldfusion IDE
Russ
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Sure - the range of available plugins alone is
reason enough
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Need css support?, db support?, need to edit an xml
document?,
dabble with <spit>PHP?</spit> - or do something in java?
Grab one of
the tons of plugins and have it all available within the
same IDE.
Not to mention source control support and being able to
compare the
current version of a page with the version before
you went
to the pub ;-)
HTH
Kola
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Just wondering if anyone has found any benefits of using
eclipse over
homesite.
I have installed it and played with it, but it seems
very limited
compared to homesite for CF coding.
Russ
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