>- see footer for list info -< Looks like they are now owned by activsoftware
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Watson > Sent: 12 April 2005 19:25 > To: Coldfusion Development > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > > >- see footer for list info -< > not as nightmarish as cfdev.com home of activedit, it's > bloody abysmal - have they been bought out? > > *grumble* > > > Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote: > > >>- see footer for list info -< > >> > >> > >Awful site. > >Can I figure out to change my password, like hell can I. > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: 12 April 2005 17:28 > >>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >> > >> > >> > >>>- see footer for list info -< > >>> > >>> > >>In the not so user friendly issue tracker .. (click query database, > >>then submit query) > >> > >>http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectIssues > >> > >> > >>Looks like some of your requests/enhancements have already been > >>logged: > >> > >>http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87 > >> > >>http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52 > >> > >> > >>HTH > >> > >>K > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Michaels (Snake) > >>>Sent: 12 April 2005 16:10 > >>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Ok, where does one make a feature request > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 16:26 > >>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Funnily enough the list of cf functions is one of the things I > >>>>missed but recently have found I no longer need it (although I do > >>>>admittedly have to some times refer to > >>>>http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/functio > >>>>n.htm#wp308286 > >>>>2) > >>>> > >>>>It might be an idea to add a feature request. Did I mention there > >>>>are 2 in-built browsers - one of these I requested (and > >>>> > >>>> > >>was it was > >> > >> > >>>>added almost the next day) specifically for referring to online > >>>>help. > >>>> > >>>>K > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>Michaels (Snake) > >> > >> > >>>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 14:54 > >>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Seeing as u made a comment on the word wrap, I'll just > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>point out why I > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>find it useful. > >>>>>When I have to edit pages where lines are really long, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>2 or more > >> > >> > >>>>>screens wide, it is a royal pain scrolling left and right > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>as well as > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>up and down and you can often totally miss a bit of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>code you are > >> > >> > >>>>>looking for. So turning on word wrap to get all your cod > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>eon the page > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>is useful for that purpose, even if it is messy. > >>>>> > >>>>>I will certainly persevere with it a bit longer, but > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>some things I > >> > >> > >>>>>really have trouble living without, like the tag editor and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>right click insert. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Surely No-one can remember every possible tag and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>function and all > >> > >> > >>>>>their attributes, especially seeing as some tags have tons of > >>>>>attributes, and a lot of them are rarely used. > >>>>>So those two features make life a lot easier. > >>>>> > >>>>>E.G. > >>>>>I have a list, I want to find an item in the list, I wonder > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>if there > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>is a function to do that. > >>>>>Right click, insert expression, pull up a list of all the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>functions, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>look down the list, Ah Listfind(), that looks like the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>one I need. > >> > >> > >>>>>I am still using functions I have never used before > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>even now. With > >> > >> > >>>>>CFEclipse, I will either have to refer to docs more often, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>which take > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>a LOT longer, or memorise all tags, functions and attributes. > >>>>> > >>>>>Russ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 15:34 > >>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>Russ > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You're right some of the things in your list are > missing - search > >>>>>>and replace is in there, indent is in there (highlight the code > >>>>>>block and then press tab), there is no page split and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>(thankfully?) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>no word wrap, no code sweeper and no RDS (MM wont open > it up) but > >>>>>>the great thing about CFeclipse is that its open source > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>so who knows > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>who will come along and implement all those features > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>in the next > >> > >> > >>>>>>month. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You can add bookmarks and descriptions to files which > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>is a bit > >> > >> > >>>>>>better than line highlight, you can also type TODO and > have items > >>>>>>added to a todo list, as pointed out help goes to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>livedocs which in > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>my opinion is actually better than the stale help > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>available within > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>cfstudio/homesite. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>But there is also a code outline view which homesite does > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>not have > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>as well a method view which lists all the methods for > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>a cfc and > >> > >> > >>>>>>allows you to jump to the selected method. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I'ts not for everyone but give it a try I'm sure you'll > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>get used to > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>it. For more info join the users cfeclipse mailing list @ > >>>>>>http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList > >>>>>>Or have a butchers at spike's blog > >>>>>>http://www.spike.org.uk/cfeclipse/space/start > >>>>>> > >>>>>>HTH > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Did I mention it also pours pints? ;-) Kola > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>Michaels (Snake) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 12:26 > >>>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>OK for the purpose of editing NON CF code, I can see the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>advantages of > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>using eclipse. But I am talking about the CFECLIPSE plugin > >>>>>>>specifically here. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>When I tried it, I found a lot of things missing that I > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>like about > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>homesite. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Here are 10 I can think of form the top of my head > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>1) right click insert tag/function > >>>>>>>2) right click tag editor > >>>>>>>3) button toolbars > >>>>>>>4) extended search/replace > >>>>>>>5) page split > >>>>>>>6) word wrap > >>>>>>>7) break points/line hilite (very useful in big pages for > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>bookmarking > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>a > >>>>>>>line) > >>>>>>>8) indent/unindent > >>>>>>>9) codesweeper > >>>>>>>10) RDS features, such as database browser > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>So far as I can see, eclipse if a great all round > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>editor, but is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>no replacement for homesite as a dedicated coldfusion IDE > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Russ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 13:06 > >>>>>>>>To: 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Sure - the range of available plugins alone is > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>reason enough > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Need css support?, db support?, need to edit an xml > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>document?, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>dabble with <spit>PHP?</spit> - or do something in java? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>Grab one of > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>the tons of plugins and have it all available within the > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>same IDE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Not to mention source control support and being able to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>compare the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>current version of a page with the version before > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>you went > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>to the pub ;-) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>HTH > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Kola > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- > >>>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>Michaels (Snake) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Sent: 12 April 2005 11:45 > >>>>>>>>>To: 'Simon Baynes'; 'Coldfusion Development' > >>>>>>>>>Subject: [CF-Dev] cfeclipse > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>- see footer for list info -< > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Just wondering if anyone has found any benefits of using > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>eclipse over > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>homesite. > >>>>>>>>>I have installed it and played with it, but it seems > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>very limited > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>compared to homesite for CF coding. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Russ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>lists, go > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>>CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > >>>>>>>>>>- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< > >>>>>>>>>>- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< > >>>>>>>>>>- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > >>>>>>>>>>- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>to volunteer > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>your help - 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