>- see footer for list info -< Unfortunately it is almost impossible to find the author a clever DDOS attacker due to the nature of a DDOS attack.
We spoke to the Technical Crime Squad in Spain and they told us that they do not have the time nor the means to do anything. Lol. They usually ask for small amounts to ensure a payment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Coldfusion Development" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error >- see footer for list info -< Yes, I must admin I had a few concerns...... Though it does sound like easy money especially if you are not being reported.. who's up for some DNS attacks for some extra dosh? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Lynch Sent: 22 April 2005 13:28 To: Coldfusion Development Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error >- see footer for list info -< Is anyone else reading this with concern? Surely it's a slippery slope if you pay criminals extortion/blackmail money?! What will you do if they come back again? Ade -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Cliff Sent: 22 April 2005 09:54 To: CF Developer Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error >- see footer for list info -< By the way its a way cheaper to pay them off than the infrastructure needed to combat a DDOS attack. Obviously what they are doing is illegal and I am not saying you should pay but the fact is it could cost you about �20000 a year in hardware/bandwidth/etc for a BASIC defence and �500/�1000 to pay them off. We got attacked twice in two years and spent the money on DDOS defence and when they attacked again we couldn't handle it. Look at the numbers and make your choice. Maybe if the companies are bigger they will ask for more money, I don't know. Remember you always depend on your upstream router cos when you get attacked you have to ask them to start filtering to stop the attack reaching you. If they don't respond then 100Mb can be expensive! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tomo To: Allan Cliff ; Coldfusion Development Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] cfhttp error are you saying you paid these people to stop the attack? Allan Cliff wrote: >>- see footer for list info -< > > We have been DDOSsed and we had to pay to make them stop. > The second time we put in some hardware to stop it with a 100Mb burstable > line behind and it even filled that up (estimated at a 150Mb attack). Time > to pay again. > We were only a small company and could not do anything to stop it. It was > just out of our league. > Maybe a company like M$ would have the bandwidth to cope?!? > But someone like protx probably wouldn't have more than 100Mb. Even if you > do have that bandwidth, IP changes / DNS changes the DDosers are usually > only 15 minutes behind you. > > You then depend on the upline routers to filter stuff out and unless you > have plenty of influence they aren't interested, and if they are you have to > find the person who knows how to configure the filters. They prefer to block > calls to the whole domain rather than filter out the crappy packets. > > Some 12 year old romanians have nothing better to do! LOL. > My 2p worth > > Allan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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