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Hi Duncan,

I'm prepared to risk people starting new accounts from other pc's, not much
I can do about that. We currently check for email/cfid:cftoken/login in case
they already exist.

Not wanting people creating more than one profile might seem a trivial
thing, but it's one of the features that set us apart from our competition.

It's especially important when we bar idiots as we don't want them coming
back under some other identity. When we bar we aim to bar for good!

Jenny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan Cumming
> Sent: 15 June 2005 12:37
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
>
>
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> Jenny, you don't want people making multiple accounts from the
> same machine, but this isn't going to stop people using different
> machines to sign up more than once.  Could you use email address
> as a unique identifier to prevent multiple signups?  Or are
> people using different email addresses to get around this already?
>
>
> Duncan Cumming
> New Media Developer
> Customer Relations Management / Education
> Fife Council
> 700 4105 / 01592 414105
>
> >>> "Jenny Gavin-Wear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15/06/2005 00:37 >>>
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>
> Thanks Snake, good stuff, but "However, the jsessionid is always
> created as
> a non-persistent cookie."  So it's not going to stop someone
> coming back and
> creating a second registration.
>
> Currently, to keep a user barred I'm using the CFID/CFtoken pair, but this
> doesn't seem to be viable.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 14 June 2005 17:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Coldfusion Development'
> > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> >
> >
> > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18232 >
> > Russ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny
> Gavin-Wear
> > Sent: 14 June 2005 16:41
> > To: Coldfusion Development
> > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> >
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> > Hmm.. interesting .. jsessionid ?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Snake
> > > Sent: 14 June 2005 12:41
> > > To: 'Coldfusion Development'
> > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > >
> > >
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> > > I think we must have replied to one another directly at some point and
> > > not noticed, so all our replies to each others posts from that point
> > > have not been going to the list but to each other LOL.
> > >
> > > What you can also do is stick a cookie on each users machine so you
> > > know they have already registered, and thus stop them
> registering again.
> > > Their sessions may not be getting stored due to a number of reasons
> > > such as NAT, proxy servers, antispyware, cookeis being disabled etc.
> > >
> > > You could always try using JSessionID's instead of CFID's
> > >
> > > Russ
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 14 June 2005 08:40
> > > To: Snake
> > > Cc: Coldfusion Development
> > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > >
> > >
> > > Still looking at this.  I've always had UUID switched on, and I had it
> > > set to purge every 90 days - have just upped this to 180.
> > >
> > > I'm getting a lot of repeated CFID:CFTOKEN against new registrations
> > > sooo, just how unique is it?
> > >
> > > Was talking to Ade about this over the weekend. I agree Ade, it's a
> > > hassle, but we really don't want people to be able to create two
> > > profiles from the same pc.
> > >
> > > (Snake, when I hit reply to you from the list it sticks in your
> > > private email address, with anyone else it puts in the list name ...)
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 11 June 2005 09:51
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Both CFID and CFTOKEN are used to ensure uniqueness and are created
> > > > at the same time. In the CFADMIN you can specify to use a UUID for
> > > > CFID, whichthen guarantees it will be unique, so you could try this,
> > > > thus doing away with the need to use CFTOKEN.
> > > >
> > > > Russ
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 11 June 2005 06:54
> > > > To: Snake
> > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed.
> > > >
> > > > But I still don't understand how a user has been able to create a
> > > > new account when one with the same cfid/token still exists.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the cftoken is set later in the session when the user is
> > > > registering.  So I was wondering if I drop using the CFTOKEN and
> > > > just use CFID it would solve the problem?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 11 June 2005 00:12
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps your using client variables. Client variables last a lot
> > > > > longer, thus your session is not going to expire unless you do not
> > > > > login for say 30 days.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 10 June 2005 22:31
> > > > > To: Snake
> > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's not my experience at all.  I have had the same CFID and
> > > > Token as a
> > > > > user on my site since day 1, so has every other user.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps you mean when they aren't stored?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: 10 June 2005 18:56
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Coldfusion Development'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The CFID and CFTOKEN will only last as long as the session. Once
> > > > > > the session has expired they get a new cfid and cftoken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny
> > > > > Gavin-Wear
> > > > > > Sent: 10 June 2005 18:21
> > > > > > To: Coldfusion Development
> > > > > > Subject: [CF-Dev] CFID
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using CFID with CFTOKEN to stop dupe profiles on our
> > > dating site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Theory is, when a new user goes to register a check is made
> > > > > > against existing profiles to see if the CFID/Token
> already exists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seems that one or two are getting past this check, any
> ideas how?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do I need to check on the token as well as the cfid, or is the
> > > > > > cfid enough?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't want to end up with people creating more than one
> > > > profile, it's
> > > > > > just not nice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jenny
> > > > > > http://www.chicksnchaps.co.uk
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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