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a whopping $2499 per CPU!!!


On 11/30/05, Mark Smyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >- see footer for list info -<
> How much is it coming in at John?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Beynon
> Sent: 30 November 2005 11:42
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1
>
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> but have you seen the price of a per CPU license of bd.net?
>
> john
>
> On 11/30/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >- see footer for list info -<
> > Ask Charlie to give you the presentation ove rthe web, I think you
> > will be sold.
> > Really it does piss on coldfusion. There are only a few monitor things
> > CFMx can do that BD can't, and I can certainly live without them.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smyth
> > Sent: 30 November 2005 10:00
> > To: 'Coldfusion Development'
> > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1
> >
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> > Just out of interested what would you define as the main advantages of
> > BD over CF
> >
> > I missed the presentation, but met charlie earlier in the year, I
> > couldn't believe the increase in performance BD asp.net has over CF
> > when using SQL server just by using the .Net (ADO or something) JDBC
> > drivers
> >
> > It was something like a 40% performance increase
> >
> > I mean that alone makes the changeover pretty much common sense
> >
> > Also consuming complex web services will finally work, the fact that
> > you can't do this still in CFMX7 (even if it's an Axis issue) drives
> > me nuts
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Snake
> > Sent: 28 November 2005 17:19
> > To: 'Coldfusion Development'
> > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1
> >
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> > I can't yet give u any facts as I haven't moved over, but I am planning
> it.
> > I can live without the features that CF has which BD doesn't, the
> > advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me.
> > Charlie showed us the cf_document tag at the presentation, so I know
> > it is there.
> > I am sure Alex will pipe up, as he is actively using BD right now.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary F
> > Sent: 28 November 2005 15:38
> > To: Coldfusion Development
> > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1
> >
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> > I can't find any info on the Blue Dragon site about a CFDOCUMENT
> > equivilent, Russ. Do you now if they have their own Report Builder or
> > if it's compatible with CF's Report Builder?
> >
> > Assuming you've moved over to the BD platform, what's the performance
> > like in comparason? Any quirks worth mentioning?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On 11/28/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > Blue Dragon does CFDocument. They just have a custom tag to provide
> > > the same functionality.
> > > Remember, CFDocument is just using iText anyway, it's not a native
> > > function of CF. So you can always install iText (FREE) and call it
> > > natively.
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary F
> > > Sent: 28 November 2005 14:36
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1
> > >
> > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > Thanks everyone. Didn't expect 3 replies so quickly! :-) I've had my
> > > eye on Blue Dragon for a few years but I really need CF7 features
> > > such as CFDOCUMENT. My app will need to produce loads of PDF files
> > > on demand.
> > > Prior
> > > to that I was looking at PDF COM objects which was horrid in comparison.
> > >
> > > Terry, will look into that link you gave me. Interesting.
> > >
> > > Russ, will try out filemon too. Sounds like a cool tool I used in
> > > the old Amiga days called SnoopDOS or something.
> > >
> > > Robin, no firewalls or AV stuff running. All systems are naked for
> > > now. I don't think configuring the web server is the main problem
> > > because Jrun complaints about JNDI not responding on a certain port,
> > > plus the Jrun CF service won't start.
> > >
> > > Will play with the new info that you guys have given me. Your
> > > interest and sympathy helps a lot, honestly. After Macromedia
> > > telling me to shove off I need a hug. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers all,
> > > Gary.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Terry Riley <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > > Nothing to do with
> > > >
> > > > http://www.macromedia.com/go/b39c1803
> > > >
> > > > which *was* a problem on my recent instal of 6.1 onto WS2003?
> > > > Happily, it was one I was ready for...
> > > >
> > > > Terry
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > > > Hi everyone. I'm new to this list but have been using CF for 9
> > > > > years now.
> > > > > I've encountered a major problem that causes the trial version
> > > > > of
> > > > > CF7.01 to
> > > > > repeatedly fail on installation on Windows 2003 Server with SP1.
> > > > > I realise there's a technote about SP1 issues (that's SP1
> > > > > slipstreamed which I'm using, not SP1 applied after initial
> > > > > installation) but the rather ridiculous solution given doesn't work.
> > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/go/228c3aaa
> > > > >
> > > > > The errors in the CF install log are always:
> > > > >
> > > > > ANT Script Error:
> > > > > Status: ERROR
> > > > > Additional Notes: ERROR - jrun.xmljava.io.FileNotFoundException:
> > > > > C:\JRun4\tmpmove.bat (Access is denied)
> > > > >
> > > > > and also...
> > > > >
> > > > > Web Server Connector Configuration Error
> > > > > Status: ERROR
> > > > > Additional Notes: ERROR - JNDI port 2902 for server cfusion is
> > > > > not active
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried at least 40 times on VMware servers via RDP running
> > > > > Win2003 Enterprise (trial) and not via RDP running 2003 Standard
> > > > > (fully
> > > > > licensed)
> > > > > and directly on a physical machine running Win2003 Enterprise
> > > > > (trial). I have tried combinations of single and multi server CF
> > > > > options and selecting 30-day Trial and Developer Edition. The
> > > > > only success I've had (about 3 out of 40 attempts) is when
> > > > > Developer Edition is selected and IIS web extensions have been
> > > > > enabled prior to installation. Even this approach is random in
> success.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure everyone can appreciate that such an inconsistent and
> > > > > unreliable situation can't be allowed to progress to a full
> > > > > production environment.
> > > > > Macromedia US refuses to help unless I spend $500 on a support
> ticket.
> > > > > What
> > > > > other company charges money to accept a bug report? They won't
> > > > > even log the fact that it's a bug or pass my problem onto anyone
> > > > > in tech support.
> > > > > Despite
> > > > > the fortune that my clients have spent with CF licenses and
> > > > > support contracts in the past Macromedia don't want to know.
> > > > > .NET is calling me louder than ever and at a time I have zero
> > > > > faith in Macromedia and CF I'm in a rather difficult situation
> > > > > as I've committed my current project to using CF. Obviously I
> > > > > can't buy the licenses for this project until Macromedia can get
> > > > > CF to install on a standard
> > > > > Win2003 SP1 machine. Why burn all that money for nothing?
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has experienced this or knows of a reliable workaround
> > > > > or knows of someone in Macromedia who will listen, please let me
> know.
> > > > > There doesn't seem to be anyone at Macromedia UK who is
> > > > > responsible for CF which is bizarre.
> > > > >
> > > > > Much appreciated,
> > > > > Gary.
> > > >
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