>- see footer for list info -< Unlike just about every other application server out there, remember that NewAtlanta's pricing model actually allows you to buy per CPU, whereas with Macromedia you are tied into a per 2 CPU purchase (even if you only have a single CPU box).
Andy Quoting Niklas Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >- see footer for list info -< > Okay, so CFMX Enterprise is £4,289 (ex VAT) at the moment for 2 CPUs. And > that's also includes a fully licenced JRun. > > CFMX Standard is £929 (ex VAT) for 2 CPUs. > > These prices also don't take into consideration any discount you might get > from buying from a reseller either. Where you could be looking at maybe 10% > off. > > In any case, $5,000 (~£2,900) for 2 CPU BlueDragon isn't too bad for what > you get, but then the difference isn't too huge if you want Enterprise > (another ~£1,400). What's £1,400 when you're already spending nearly > £3,000!!! ;) > > Anyways, I thought the BlueDragon presentation was really great, so I'm not > being CF biased. But I don't think the pricing is enough of an argument to > go with BlueDragon. If it was the same price as CFMX Standard, then > perhaps. > > Anyways, my 2p. > > Cheers > > Niklas > > > > > > > On 01/12/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > Considerably les sthan MM CFMX, especially form the UK, wher ethey hike up > > the prices. > > MM do not charge the same pric ein all countries. > > If CFMX Ent costs $4000 they would also charge £4000, which means it costs > > us twice a smuch as it costs you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Beynon > > Sent: 01 December 2005 10:39 > > To: Coldfusion Development > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > a whopping $2499 per CPU!!! > > > > > > > > On 11/30/05, Mark Smyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > How much is it coming in at John? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Beynon > > > Sent: 30 November 2005 11:42 > > > To: Coldfusion Development > > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > but have you seen the price of a per CPU license of bd.net? > > > > > > john > > > > > > On 11/30/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > Ask Charlie to give you the presentation ove rthe web, I think you > > > > will be sold. > > > > Really it does piss on coldfusion. There are only a few monitor > > > > things CFMx can do that BD can't, and I can certainly live without > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smyth > > > > Sent: 30 November 2005 10:00 > > > > To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > Just out of interested what would you define as the main advantages > > > > of BD over CF > > > > > > > > I missed the presentation, but met charlie earlier in the year, I > > > > couldn't believe the increase in performance BD asp.net has over CF > > > > when using SQL server just by using the .Net (ADO or something) JDBC > > > > drivers > > > > > > > > It was something like a 40% performance increase > > > > > > > > I mean that alone makes the changeover pretty much common sense > > > > > > > > Also consuming complex web services will finally work, the fact that > > > > you can't do this still in CFMX7 (even if it's an Axis issue) drives > > > > me nuts > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Snake > > > > Sent: 28 November 2005 17:19 > > > > To: 'Coldfusion Development' > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > I can't yet give u any facts as I haven't moved over, but I am > > > > planning > > > it. > > > > I can live without the features that CF has which BD doesn't, the > > > > advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me. > > > > Charlie showed us the cf_document tag at the presentation, so I know > > > > it is there. > > > > I am sure Alex will pipe up, as he is actively using BD right now. > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary F > > > > Sent: 28 November 2005 15:38 > > > > To: Coldfusion Development > > > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > I can't find any info on the Blue Dragon site about a CFDOCUMENT > > > > equivilent, Russ. Do you now if they have their own Report Builder > > > > or if it's compatible with CF's Report Builder? > > > > > > > > Assuming you've moved over to the BD platform, what's the > > > > performance like in comparason? Any quirks worth mentioning? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > > Blue Dragon does CFDocument. They just have a custom tag to > > > > > provide the same functionality. > > > > > Remember, CFDocument is just using iText anyway, it's not a native > > > > > function of CF. So you can always install iText (FREE) and call it > > > > > natively. > > > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary F > > > > > Sent: 28 November 2005 14:36 > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF7 doesn't install on Win2003 with SP1 > > > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > > Thanks everyone. Didn't expect 3 replies so quickly! :-) I've had > > > > > my eye on Blue Dragon for a few years but I really need CF7 > > > > > features such as CFDOCUMENT. My app will need to produce loads of > > > > > PDF files on demand. > > > > > Prior > > > > > to that I was looking at PDF COM objects which was horrid in > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > Terry, will look into that link you gave me. Interesting. > > > > > > > > > > Russ, will try out filemon too. Sounds like a cool tool I used in > > > > > the old Amiga days called SnoopDOS or something. > > > > > > > > > > Robin, no firewalls or AV stuff running. All systems are naked for > > > > > now. I don't think configuring the web server is the main problem > > > > > because Jrun complaints about JNDI not responding on a certain > > > > > port, plus the Jrun CF service won't start. > > > > > > > > > > Will play with the new info that you guys have given me. Your > > > > > interest and sympathy helps a lot, honestly. After Macromedia > > > > > telling me to shove off I need a hug. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers all, > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Terry Riley < > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > > > Nothing to do with > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/go/b39c1803 > > > > > > > > > > > > which *was* a problem on my recent instal of 6.1 onto WS2003? > > > > > > Happily, it was one I was ready for... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > > > > > > Hi everyone. I'm new to this list but have been using CF for 9 > > > > > > > years now. > > > > > > > I've encountered a major problem that causes the trial version > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > CF7.01 to > > > > > > > repeatedly fail on installation on Windows 2003 Server with SP1. > > > > > > > I realise there's a technote about SP1 issues (that's SP1 > > > > > > > slipstreamed which I'm using, not SP1 applied after initial > > > > > > > installation) but the rather ridiculous solution given doesn't > > work. > > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/go/228c3aaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The errors in the CF install log are always: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANT Script Error: > > > > > > > Status: ERROR > > > > > > > Additional Notes: ERROR - jrun.xmljava.io.FileNotFoundException: > > > > > > > C:\JRun4\tmpmove.bat (Access is denied) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and also... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Server Connector Configuration Error > > > > > > > Status: ERROR > > > > > > > Additional Notes: ERROR - JNDI port 2902 for server cfusion is > > > > > > > not active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried at least 40 times on VMware servers via RDP > > > > > > > running > > > > > > > Win2003 Enterprise (trial) and not via RDP running 2003 > > > > > > > Standard (fully > > > > > > > licensed) > > > > > > > and directly on a physical machine running Win2003 Enterprise > > > > > > > (trial). I have tried combinations of single and multi server > > > > > > > CF options and selecting 30-day Trial and Developer Edition. > > > > > > > The only success I've had (about 3 out of 40 attempts) is when > > > > > > > Developer Edition is selected and IIS web extensions have been > > > > > > > enabled prior to installation. Even this approach is random in > > > success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone can appreciate that such an inconsistent and > > > > > > > unreliable situation can't be allowed to progress to a full > > > > > > > production environment. > > > > > > > Macromedia US refuses to help unless I spend $500 on a support > > > ticket. > > > > > > > What > > > > > > > other company charges money to accept a bug report? They won't > > > > > > > even log the fact that it's a bug or pass my problem onto > > > > > > > anyone in tech support. > > > > > > > Despite > > > > > > > the fortune that my clients have spent with CF licenses and > > > > > > > support contracts in the past Macromedia don't want to know. > > > > > > > .NET is calling me louder than ever and at a time I have zero > > > > > > > faith in Macromedia and CF I'm in a rather difficult situation > > > > > > > as I've committed my current project to using CF. Obviously I > > > > > > > can't buy the licenses for this project until Macromedia can > > > > > > > get CF to install on a standard > > > > > > > Win2003 SP1 machine. Why burn all that money for nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has experienced this or knows of a reliable > > > > > > > workaround or knows of someone in Macromedia who will listen, > > > > > > > please let me > > > know. > > > > > > > There doesn't seem to be anyone at Macromedia UK who is > > > > > > > responsible for CF which is bizarre. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much appreciated, > > > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving > > > > > > lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > > > > > > >- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > > > > > > >- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< > > > > > > >- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< > > > > > > >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > > > > > > >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to 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