>- see footer for list info -< Yup, all good points, thanks Gary. I'm the one that reads the Apache/CF logs - he hasn't a clue! That's why I've asked him how he knows it is actually being 'nicked'.
Cheers Terry ----- Original Message ----- > The easiest solution, Terry, is to add some code to every page that > checks > the HTTP referer to ensure that it's www.footballsite.com (whatever) > and if > it's not then redirect the user/bot to the home page. The only drawback > is > if a visitor got to the site via an authorised or genuine link or via a > search engine. The workaround for that is to add google.com, msn.com, > etc, > as an exception to that piece of code. > > Also your client should try looking at the user agents from his web > logs to > see what IPs are the offenders, what software they use to pinch > content. It > may be an idea to block certain user agents or IPs if your logs identify > them. > > Gary. > > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:22 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Terry Riley < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >- see footer for list info -< > > Afternoon, all. > > > > Client has a football league/results site, for which he does not > > charge - > > but makes most of his income on this site from ads, both paid and > > adsense= > . > > > > Just lately it has been reported that a number of other sites are > > creatin= > g > > links to his results pages (some of them) within their own > > applications > > and charging for the information. > > > > I am waiting for him to advise me exactly how he knows this, what the > > sites are (and their IP addresses). In the meantime, I agreed to > > investigate how this sort of thing might be prevented. > > > > The main site (on its peak day, Monday) is now hitting 400,000 pages > > (not > > hits, pages) on a good day. Not huge, but the advertising revenue on > > a cp= > m > > basis is significant, and any diminution hits his pocket (and > > indirectly, > > mine). > > > > I thought of creating another table listing IP addresses of such > > 'thieving' sites, running every page through an IP address query, and > > making their users type in some sort of authentication before > > connecting > > to his CF pages. How long they could stand this before complaining to > > the > > thieving admin I don't know - assuming it is possible. > > > > It seems like a bit of overkill, and I think I'm probably missing a > > trick > > somewhere. > > > > Anyone got any other suggestions - Google doesn't give me too many > > option= > s > > (or I'm asking the wrong questions......). > > > > Cheers > > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go > > to > > http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > -- > > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > > >- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > > >- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< > > >- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< > > >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > > >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your > > help > > -< > > > > <div>The easiest solution, Terry, is to add some code to every > page t= > hat checks the HTTP referer to ensure that it's <a > href=3D"http://www.footb= > allsite.com">www.footballsite.com</a> (whatever) and if it's not then > > redir= > ect the user/bot to the home page. The only drawback is if a visitor > got to= > the site via an authorised or genuine link or via a search engine. The > wor= > karound for that is to add=20 > <a href=3D"http://google.com";>google.com</a>, <a > href=3D"http://msn.com";>ms= > n.com</a>, etc, as an exception to that piece of code.</div> > <div> </div> > <div>Also your client should try looking at the user agents from his > web lo= > gs to see what IPs are the offenders, what software they use to pinch > conte= > nt. It may be an idea to block certain user agents or IPs if your logs > iden= > tify them. > </div> > <div> </div> > <div>Gary.<br><br> </div> > <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:22 +0000 (GMT > Standa= > rd Time), <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Terry Riley</b> <<a > > href=3D"mail= > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>> wrote:</span> > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: > 0px 0= > px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">>- see footer for list > info -= > <<br>Afternoon, all.<br><br>Client has a football league/results > site, f= > or which he does not charge - > <br>but makes most of his income on this site from ads, both paid and > adsen= > se.<br><br>Just lately it has been reported that a number of other > sites ar= > e creating<br>links to his results pages (some of them) within their > own ap= > plications > <br>and charging for the information.<br><br>I am waiting for him to > advise= > me exactly how he knows this, what the<br>sites are (and their IP > addresse= > s). In the meantime, I agreed to<br>investigate how this sort of thing > migh= > t be prevented. > <br><br>The main site (on its peak day, Monday) is now hitting 400,000 > page= > s (not<br>hits, pages) on a good day. Not huge, but the advertising > revenue= > on a cpm<br>basis is significant, and any diminution hits his pocket > (and = > indirectly, > <br>mine).<br><br>I thought of creating another table listing IP > addresses = > of such<br>'thieving' sites, running every page through an IP address > query= > , and<br>making their users type in some sort of authentication before > conn= > ecting > <br>to his CF pages. How long they could stand this before complaining > to t= > he<br>thieving admin I don't know - assuming it is possible.<br><br>It > seem= > s like a bit of overkill, and I think I'm probably missing a > trick<br>somew= > here. > <br><br>Anyone got any other suggestions - Google doesn't give me too > many = > options<br>(or I'm asking the wrong > questions......).<br><br>Cheers<br>Terr= > y<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>For > details= > on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to=20 > <a > href=3D"http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo";>http://list.cfde > = > veloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo</a><br><br>--<br>CFDeveloper > Sponsors:-<br>&= > gt;- Hosting provided by <a > href=3D"http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk";>www.cfmxh= > osting.co.uk > </a> -<<br>>- Forum provided by <a > > href=3D"http://www.fusetalk.com";>w= > ww.fusetalk.com</a> -<<br>>- DHTML Menus provided by <a > > href=3D"http:= > //www.APYCOM.com">www.APYCOM.com</a> -<<br>>- Lists hosted by <a > > href= > =3D"http://www.Gradwell.com";> > www.Gradwell.com</a> -<<br>>- CFdeveloper is run by Russ > > Michaels, fe= > el free to volunteer your help -<<br></blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Forum provided by www.fusetalk.com -< >- DHTML Menus provided by www.APYCOM.com -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help -<
