1. Yes, it makes Sense for Sun to buy it and make it affordable for small
budgets.
2. It would be nice if M$ just accepted that developing on all platforms is
an inevitable path they need to take.

(I'll hope for the first one tho)

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 December 2002 13:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Read this!


> I still personally feel that CFMX server should come cheaper
> so that it gets sold more often, and used in more solutions.
> If MS buy MM, then at least CF stands a chance at being in
> every .NET Server and will keep you lot employed as CF
> developers in times to come. As things stand, CF will
> probably die out.

While I don't in principle disagree with you, what you say is particularly
"doom and gloom" for a lot of people.  It's also not very helpful.

CFMX will not go on every .NET server.  It may get integrated to be a .NET
package, but think about it.  It would be easier for MS to re-write the
package in C# (or some such other language) and therefore it would lose it's
cross-platform nature (unless MS bring out C# and .NET stuff for *nix).  The
code is not wonderfully hard to replicate, take a look at bluedragon for
example. It uses the CF tags and functions (I think) so the language doesn't
need to die out.

The problem comes in what MS would call "Licensing".  At least with the
current situation, we have a "buy a licence, use the product" thing going
on.  With MS, it could be, "buy this, continue to pay and you can use it".
CF will therefore die out because it would not be a free add-on and also
since ASP.NET developers are not hard to come by (although they are nowhere
near as good as those in the CF community).

So, we either have a situation where someone from the Java side buys MM eg
Sun,IBM etc or we have MS buying MM.  If no-one buys MM, I think it would be
better, but it's a bit unlikely.  As soon as there was talk of MM buying
Allaire it was pretty much assumed it would.  It made a shrewd move to
combine toolsets, and it's all about money.  The only thing is, I'm not
entirely certain CF will continue to be around as a growing toolset within 3
years anyway.  CF is entirely a web language, and unlike Java or .NET, CF
loses on it's cost.  Java and .NET are free (unless you buy dev tools which
are unnecessary) and are effectively standard to install and run whereas CF
is not (although you can develop with it for free).   If the Java side buys
MM, it will allow the toolset to grow and become even more integrated (what
I mean is, CF will compile into servlets, not custom bytecode and therefore
be even more portable and usable).  If MS buys it, it will become something
else, that none of us really know, and may not survive...

Just some thoughts...

I'm going out to ponder my future with Java and/or C# as well as CF!

Paul




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