I disagree most vehemently (but I'm still calm). We still see a lot of them existing where they don't have the slightest clue about the web and how it works and yet they're perfectly happy to sell website designs.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 07 January 2003 15:33 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SES URL > > > I wouldn't say that is still true today, yes definitely it > was true 3/4 > years ago, but not so much now. You will find that there are > some real good > designers out there that can make something work on the web. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 07 January 2003 15:30 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SES URL > > > > Design agencies are often interested in getting the client to > > buy their > > design based on how wonderful it looks rather than how > > feasible it will > > be to make it work. > > Don't get me stared on that one. Oooooh design agencies make me angry! > Especially when the client comes to us after they've bought > the design and > we have to alter it radically to make it work on the web > rather than in > print (which is most design companies' background and then the client > bitches cos its not the design they bought. etc etc etc. > > I'd like to tour each and every design company that designs > like that and > beat them to death with four monitors each set at a different > resolution. > > *ahem* > > calm. zen. purity. pint of lager. big bag of skunk. > > its ok, I'm calm again now. rant over. sorry. > > R. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 07 January 2003 15:25 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SES URL > > > > > > Lots of people forget that large sites are often designed by design > > agencies/teams and then implemented by developers from a separate or > > partner company. > > > > Design agencies are often interested in getting the client to > > buy their > > design based on how wonderful it looks rather than how > > feasible it will > > be to make it work. > > > > For a case in point go here: > > > > http://www.vu.nl > > > > Try automagically making that one Search Engine friendly. > > > > Even for sites that are designed and built by competent > > developers, I'd > > wager that it's pretty rare that you'll not have any pages > that use a > > bit of Javascript to redirect to another page. Whether or not that > > should be indexed by a spider is a bit hard to say, but I certainly > > wouldn't assume that it isn't necessary. > > > > Personally, I'd rather go through every href in the site > and make the > > whole lot Search Engine friendly than try to convert only > half of it. > > Almost certainly, the half you don't convert will cause you > no end of > > little requests for another code change just so it works for search > > engines. > > > > Spike > > > > > > Stephen Milligan > > Team Macromedia - ColdFusion > > Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets and Content > > Management' > > http://spikefu.blogspot.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 07 January 2003 16:16 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SES URL > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not forgetting to do the same thing for all Javascript > > > generated hrefs > > > > (Good luck with that one), and forms with a get operation where > > > > relevant. > > > > > > > > Also, you might need to do it for some <link>, <base>, > <object>, > > > > <applet> and some other tags that take a href attribute. > > > > > > Not strictly true though... > > > > > > Assuming that you're trying to create SEF URLs specifically > > > for search engines, you only really need to alter the URLs > > > that you want a spider to follow. If you're using javascript > > > to generate links and popups, its likely that the content > > > that they link to is not important to your search engine indexing. > > > > > > Lots of people forget that they need only create SEF URLs for > > > the parts of the site that need to be indexed, which is > > > mainly text content. When you look at the whole app, you > > > might find that only half of it needs to be SEF. > > > > > > It can still be a bloody big faff though. > > > > > > Taz > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ** Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
