I think when business decides on 'one method is best' then this will happen.
Each business has a unique approach to its processes and managers, by their very nature, like to 'improve' proceses. > -----Original Message----- > From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 October 2003 13:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ > cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? > > > On a more serious note, whatever the preferences it does seem > that everyone > is agreed with the fact that methodologies are a good idea. I'm interested > to know what's likely to happen in the future- this kind of > conversation is > really a demonstration of how internet applications are beginning > to be seen > on a par with all application development. Gone are the days of > web monkeys > and cowboys (well... *takes off wide brim hat and tasselled jacket*). > > But what happens next?? We're so used to a rapid speed of technological > development, when and how is it going to slow donwn. Is it now? we're > talking about methodologies, isn't this like when people got > together in the > industrial revolution and said... "hey why don't we make our > screws the same > sizes?" and others said "screw you" > > Open question... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Damian Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any > fusecoders > on the list? > > > > > PS Fusebox people smell like tramps wee.. dammit its started! > > > > Well that's what happens if you stay in a box all day, you > start smelling. > > Ask David Blaine. > > > > *duck* > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:55 PM > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any > fusecoders > > on the list? > > > > > > I think the good thing is that it shows all the levels of the > methodology > > and how you can implement its in a simple or complex form > depending on the > > scale of the project .. and you can say 'hey I wanna get off now' at any > > point during the process and you would still have something > workable ! :�) > > > > I find it very interesting to hear these views on something that has > shaped > > the CF community in such a fashion. I agree its got a bit religious now > > (hold back the fanatics with burning torches etc etc) but sill very > > interesting on how these CF 'factions' exist side to side and the whole > > thing hasn't descended into violently opposing name-calling groups like > some > > languages, ok there are tensions but hey we CF lot area pretty friendly > > bunch. > > > > Stephen > > > > PS Fusebox people smell like tramps wee.. dammit its started! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 October 2003 12:35 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any > fusecoders > > on the list? > > > > Yeah, I saw this demo/presentation at CF_Europe. Unfortunately Benoit > > English managed to confuse the difficult subject he was trying > to explain. > > The breeze slides are a little easier to understand without his lecture > but > > I would love to talk to the guy on a one to one because I am > sure he would > > totally confuse me with the technicalities of MVC. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 October 2003 12:23 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm > > > > I think this is a great website for doing MVC in CF .. I certainly > > learned a lot from this site in applying this methodology to CF. (I know > > its been posted here before but I keep going back to this one !) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 24 October 2003 12:18 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders > > on the list? > > > > > Does anyone use MVC? And if so, how does this differ from > > > fusebox because the way I see it M = Model = Query, V = View > > > = display, C = Controller = Fusebox/Actions. > > > > I have got massively into looking at different methodologies mainly > > because > > I have some of the changes in the FB community and other places (ie Mach > > II > > and the creation of CFCs). > > > > MVC is only one design pattern, albeit a useful one. Mach II is an > > implementation of that design pattern, and therefore is a methodology. > > There are many other design patterns (and you'll find reference to the > > Gang > > of Four and others when googling for design patterns). What I have > > discovered is that actually, MVC isn't all that simple to do with CF > > (Mach > > II isn't simple)! Because it is an object-oriented methodology. MVC is > > useful in the separation of data from actual display, which is useful > > when > > you have 2 separate ways of accessing the site (ie flash and HTML). > > > > My personal opinion is that CFMX allows a certain degree of Object > > Oriented-ness to be allowed in programming websites. The usefulness of > > this > > is very much down to how good a person is at coding in an object > > oriented > > nature and most CF programmers are frankly not very good at this! Again > > it > > comes down to usign the right tools for the right jobs. Learning how to > > build a website properly is more down to good design and structure than > > actual coding and what methodologies are used. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
