> I'm sorry to hear that you aren't seeing the activity you'd like in the UK. Over the past 12-24 months we've really been focusing our efforts on bringing ColdFusion to new communities and customers. We have a whole range of things planned going forward, but I'd love to hear from this community what you think is missing and what else you'd like to see.
well really, that bit about 'focusing our efforts on bringing ColdFusion to new communities and customers' sums it up - getting CF more widely used seems to me to require both a bottom-up (ie selling the benefits to developers) and top-down (ie selling the benefits to people who will employ those developers to build sites in CF) approach. Either/or just won't work - there's no point training people in CF if the jobs aren't there, there's no point clients wanting to build sites in CF if they can't find developers in their area to do the work. For example: I live in Folkestone, Kent, and I don't know of any other CF developers anywhere near (although to be fair East Kent doens't exactly have a well-developed New Media/IT industry). Shepway District Council has just rebuilt its site - I pitched for it, but they eventually went the ASP route, largely I suspect because they'd never heard of CF (to be fair to the developer who _did_ get the contract they made a nice job of it - http://www.shepway.gov.uk/ - but I bet I could have done it quicker, easier and cheaper in CF, with a more easily-maintainable codebase). Again, I had a conversation with a potential client in Brighton a few months back, I suggested using CF for the build and he said 'You mean ASP.' I said 'No, cold fusion', and he said 'What's that?' I think MM - if they're serious about CF - needs to employ some CF evangelists: which I know sounds naff, but why do you think MS technologies are considered by so many (especially clients) to be the default? Because years ago MS _did_ employ technology evangelists to go out there and preach. A difficult and time-consuming job, but it can pay dividends over time. When you look at what a lame piece of crap FrontPage is (IMHO, obviously ;-) compared to CFStudio (I'm still using CF4.5, I use CFStudio every day, I think it's one of the best pieces of software I have _ever_ used) you have to wonder why MM isn't carrying the battle to the enemy. As someone said earlier, many developers either don't use or don't llke DW (I fall into both camps, I'm afraid), so what's needed, it seems to me, are different strategies for different target groups. One strategy for new web developers/home users/developers who do like DW, another for those who like the power and flexibility (and sad geekiness? ;-) of hand-coding. And yet another strategy for potential clients... all just my tuppenyworth, obviously Ian W Ian Westbrook Director (New Media Projects) FutureDream Media Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 1303 258 985 T: 01303 258 985 M: 07939 510 812 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > I'm sorry to hear that you aren't seeing the activity you'd like in the UK. Over the past 12-24 months we've really been focusing our efforts on bringing ColdFusion to new communities and customers. We have a whole range of things planned going forward, but I'd love to hear from this community what you think is missing and what else you'd like to see. > > > Andi Hindle > Server Product Manager > Macromedia Europe > > > > > This message has been sent from CFdeveloper with username andi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
