understand and be able, with one's back to the wall, to code in the underlying
3GL or whatever. Just as 20 years ago we used 3GL compilers but to use them
effectively you had to understand the code they would generate (and I believe
that's still true for C++ jockeys today). And for CFMX you have increasingly
to know the Java platforms in depth?
appropriate tech for >parts of< getting from A to B, and a complete solution to
any practical journey will include some walking.
for CF newbies who are otherwise competent we could help by making it clearer.
will get by without thinking. Which granted is hard for marketing when most of
the target market has not been trained to think. [Can think but not habitually.]
From: Barry L Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 May 2004 02:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Giving up CF
I came over to CFMX from ASP (classic). I'm not really fussed on ASP.NET at all. I like the way it's almost seemless to develop webforms as easily as winforms but the postback for changes shit me and the whole thing just seems a bit too complex to mod for custom specs. Fast to develop using standard controls but a PITA for developing your own (JS heavy) custom controls.
the boss here is starting to regret using CF for the redevelopment of his windows apps here because it's at a much lower level to what he's used to (proprietry 4GL). While ASP.NET might be faster in the short term, as soon as something trick comes up, I know that getting my hands dirty with CF code will sort it.
Nah, I'm not changing back to MS stuff...at least not until I have to.
cheers
barry.b
----- Original Message -----
From: Justin
MacCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:19:17 +0100
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Giving up CF
> With so much movement in the Java/j2ee and .net platforms, doing
stuff
> in CF isn't much easier any more.
>
> I'm sure for
a newbie cf still has some charm, but I would guess some
> of that is
packaging. A installer that installed tomcat / the taglibs
> and a web
GUI + docs similar to CF would probably be as easy for a
> newbie. I
think the only thing holding back OSS java in that area is
> there are to
many options
>
> Anyone know of a installer as described above?
>
> Justin
>
> On May 26, 2004, at 2:40 PM, Snake
Hollywood wrote:
>
> > I have to admit I really want to go down
the .NET route and have
> > lately been
> ; > doing stuff in
ASP rather than CF because I don't want to install CF
> > on a
> > server just for a few small scripts.
> > The server side
f things bugs me now as you do need to know JAVA very
> > well
> > to run a happy CFMX server and there are more useless errors and
> > reasons for
> > CFMX to crash now, especially with it's
reaction to Access databases.
> >
> > Regardless of MM's
general performance, I think the likes of BlueDragon
> > could really
boost CF's userbase, especially with their free version.
> > I am
seriously considering adding a bluedragon development server to
> >
Cfdeveloper, and they have stated they are interested to give me
> >
enterprise
> > version for this purpose.
> > BD looks like
it holds a lot of benefits for us over MM CFMX server,
> > especially
on a shared hosting front.
& gt; >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 26
May 2004 14:14
> >> To: cfuk
> >> Subject: [ cf-dev ]
Giving up CF
> >>
> >>
> >> Are there
many here considering giving up CF development? If
> >> you had no
> >> legacy applications would you use CF still ??
>
>>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >>
>
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