Rich,

What collation did you select when creating the database?

I have just been through your process, selecting "polish_CS_AS_KS_WS" as the
collation for the database.

The queries then work with the correct characters being added and retrieved
from the db.


Cheers
Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 17:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Ok - I did the following:

New database
New table ('test' - columns: line_id NUMERIC IDENTITY, content NTEXT)
INSERT INTO test(content)
VALUES('Znajdą Państwo  Zachęcamy')

SELECT content FROM test

Results: ' Znajda Panstwo  Zachecamy ' (ie, lost all the special chars.)

This was all in Query Analyser.


-----Original Message-----
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2004 16:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]

Have u tried, make a new database, create a new table, set the coalition and
ntext, try the insert..
At least u will know if it's just that database being silly then. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 13 July 2004 16:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first 
> table, but not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't 
> come out chinese)
> 
> Both columns are ntext, default collation
> 
> Both collations are the same for both databases.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2004 16:27
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Can u insert the same text into both database via query 
> analyser? Or does it only fail on the polish one.
> Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for 
> both databases (not just the tables) and see what the default 
> is set to.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 16:17
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > Hmmm - more information.
> > 
> > I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
> > 
> > One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, 
> that contains 
> > Chinese characters
> > 
> > The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie 
> > identical.
> > 
> > How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query 
> > Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
> characters (through 
> > a cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) into my other 
> > column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish characters?
> > 
> > I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
> something 
> > different between the two.
> > 
> > Just what the hell is it?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > Thanks Mark. 
> > 
> > Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
> appreciate it, 
> > ta.
> > 
> > This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed before I 
> > arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
> collation on that 
> > table is the default (latin), but the datasource is configured for 
> > non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my 
> table to the 
> > same (database default - latin) but still no dice.
> > 
> > It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > Weird
> > 
> > The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and 
> languages 
> > is when character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.
> > 
> > This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL 
> Server 7, 
> > but I thought it was resolved with 2000.
> > 
> > That's the only other thing which springs to mind Mark
> > 
> > http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
> > This article talks about the problem I encountered, but 
> also mentions 
> > collation at column level
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > 
> > But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into 
> the table 
> > and the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the 
> > datasource has been configured to use Unicode.
> > 
> > I'm utterly stumped!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.
> > 
> > It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column 
> in the tmp 
> > table was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the 
> > stored procedure
> > 
> > It's worth a look...
> > Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >Someone else out there must be storing non-western alphabet in sql 
> > >server?
> > >  
> > >
> > I do.... just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.
> > 
> > All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.
> > 
> > useUnicode=true&characterEncoding=ISO8859_1
> > 
> > Everything worked without additional help after that.
> > 
> > Stephen
> > 
> > 
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