Ah crap I totally forgot about that... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 14 July 2004 11:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> You'll all be overjoyed no doubt to learn that I've 
> discovered the problem.
> 
> So for those of you interested:
> 
> On my insert, in the SQL syntax, rather than
> 
> INSERT INTO dbTable(content)
> VALUES('#content#')
> 
> It should be:
> 
> INSERT INTO dbTable(content)
> VALUES(N'#content#')
> 
> (Note the N)
> 
> I can't find any SQL BOL info on that - can anyone find it? I 
> presume it tells SQL Server to expect Unicode data and so not 
> to perform any translation on the characters?
> 
> This means that the collation on the column and database can 
> remain on my default Latin (western European) and I can store 
> whatever character set I like in there, confusingly.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 July 2004 09:36
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Cheers Gene, yea that works for me too.
> 
> Problem is, I'm worried about having Polish as the database 
> default when I'm not just storing Polish content, I'm storing 
> X number of other languages as well.
> 
> Its strange we have a database containing Chinese characters 
> using a Latin collation, both as database default AND column 
> collation.
> 
> I can't figure it out. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2004 17:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Rich,
> 
> What collation did you select when creating the database?
> 
> I have just been through your process, selecting 
> "polish_CS_AS_KS_WS" as the collation for the database.
> 
> The queries then work with the correct characters being added 
> and retrieved from the db.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Gene
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2004 17:03
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Ok - I did the following:
> 
> New database
> New table ('test' - columns: line_id NUMERIC IDENTITY, 
> content NTEXT) INSERT INTO test(content) VALUES('Znajdą 
> Państwo  Zachęcamy')
> 
> SELECT content FROM test
> 
> Results: ' Znajda Panstwo  Zachecamy ' (ie, lost all the 
> special chars.)
> 
> This was all in Query Analyser.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2004 16:44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> 
> Have u tried, make a new database, create a new table, set 
> the coalition and ntext, try the insert..
> At least u will know if it's just that database being silly then. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 16:31
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > Via query analyzer I can insert Chinese text into the first 
> table, but 
> > not the second (well, it goes in, but it doesn't come out chinese)
> > 
> > Both columns are ntext, default collation
> > 
> > Both collations are the same for both databases.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2004 16:27
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > 
> > Can u insert the same text into both database via query 
> analyser? Or 
> > does it only fail on the polish one.
> > Check the coalition setting of the DATABASE properties for both 
> > databases (not just the tables) and see what the default is set to.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 16:17
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > Hmmm - more information.
> > > 
> > > I have 2 databases on the *same* sql server. 
> > > 
> > > One has a table with an ntext column, default collation, 
> > that contains 
> > > Chinese characters
> > > 
> > > The other has a table with an ntext column, default collation. Ie 
> > > identical.
> > > 
> > > How come one can contain Chinese characters, but when (in Query 
> > > Analyser, so not through CF at all) I insert those 
> > characters (through 
> > > a cut and pasting from a select on the chinese table) 
> into my other 
> > > column, and then select, I get nothing out but gibberish 
> characters?
> > > 
> > > I'm very confused. They *can't* be identical! There must be 
> > something 
> > > different between the two.
> > > 
> > > Just what the hell is it?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:42
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > Thanks Mark. 
> > > 
> > > Nothing really there that's resolved the issue, but I 
> > appreciate it, 
> > > ta.
> > > 
> > > This is weird. I've discovered another app here developed 
> before I 
> > > arrived that sends out Chinese character emails. The 
> > collation on that 
> > > table is the default (latin), but the datasource is 
> configured for 
> > > non-western alphabet. I've restored the collation on my 
> > table to the 
> > > same (database default - latin) but still no dice.
> > > 
> > > It'd be fine if I wasn't racing deadlines. Gah.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:28
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > Weird
> > > 
> > > The only other time I have had trouble with SQl Server and 
> > languages 
> > > is when character sets used within SQL Server were playing up.
> > > 
> > > This caused me a big problem a couple of years ago with SQL 
> > Server 7, 
> > > but I thought it was resolved with 2000.
> > > 
> > > That's the only other thing which springs to mind Mark
> > > 
> > > http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.phpr/1587631
> > > This article talks about the problem I encountered, but 
> > also mentions 
> > > collation at column level
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:20
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But I'm just using a simple cfquery to insert straight into 
> > the table 
> > > and the column is ntext and the collation is now polish, and the 
> > > datasource has been configured to use Unicode.
> > > 
> > > I'm utterly stumped!
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:16
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > I've had this problem with chinese and sql server.
> > > 
> > > It was the tmp table used in a stored procedure, the column 
> > in the tmp 
> > > table was not ntext (so it was losing the formatting) within the 
> > > stored procedure
> > > 
> > > It's worth a look...
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2004 15:00
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] (not) activedit and polish chars[Scanned]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >Someone else out there must be storing non-western 
> alphabet in sql 
> > > >server?
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > I do.... just not in SQL Server - it was dead simple with mySQL.
> > > 
> > > All I had to do was add the following to the connection string.
> > > 
> > > useUnicode=true&characterEncoding=ISO8859_1
> > > 
> > > Everything worked without additional help after that.
> > > 
> > > Stephen
> > > 
> > > 
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