Hi Randy,

Greg said:

"Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
project as Juniper has Contrail product line."

So maybe you guys should just rename your product line instead leaving
OpenContrail as well accepted already community name ?

Best,
R.


On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net> wrote:

> I respectfully request we avoid lawyering while discussing a new name.
> Let’s focus on something that we love and are proud of.  Something that
> gets people excited about the project.
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> Hopefully we will wind up with 5-10 great choices.  At that point we’ll
> get some legal opinions and then shortlist and vote on it.
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> Thank you,
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> --Randy
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> *From: *<rras...@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM
> *To: *Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
> *Cc: *Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net>, Ankur Singla <asin...@juniper.net>,
> "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
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> *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
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> While I suggested DCV before to Greg offline the real question here is if
> you want this to be a new name independent from Juniper's parent or
> something which is still seen as maintaining this relation going forward.
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> If the latter how about simply: *Kontrail *?
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> Legally different - product wise quite similar :)
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> Best,
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> R.
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> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Gregory Elkinbard <
> gelkinb...@juniper.net> wrote:
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> Registered by Hitachi.
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> Unrelated to computers, but they can still sue.
>
> Strimmor – which is contrail in Swedish is still open.
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> Greg
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> *From: *Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Randy Bias <
> rb...@juniper.net>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:38 PM
> *To: *Ankur Singla <asin...@juniper.net>, "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
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> *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
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> This is pretty good.  +1
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> --Randy
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> Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
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> Juniper Networks
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> +1 (415) 787-2253 <(415)%20787-2253> [Google Voice]
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> ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, sconcepc...@juniper.net
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> *From: *Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Ankur
> Singla <asin...@juniper.net>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:04 PM
> *To: *"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
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> I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +0000
> From: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
> To: Foucault de Bonneval <fouca...@thaumiers.com>
> Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
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> Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is
> unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to
> assign his rights.
>
> I will add One0six the list
>
> Thanks
> Greg
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> From: Foucault de Bonneval <fouca...@thaumiers.com>
> Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
> To: Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
> Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>
> Hi there,
>
> Got a couple of ideas :
> - "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
> - "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few
> of us
>
> 'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.
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>
> Enjoy,
> Foucault
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> Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" <gelkinb...@juniper.net<
> mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net <gelkinb...@juniper.net>>> a ?crit :
> Dear Community Members.
> Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
> project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
> We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But
> I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
>
> Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during
> the summit.
> Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently
> trademarked.
> If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by
> another entity.
>
> Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name,
> but will require a new name after a short transition period.
>
> Thanks
> Greg
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