Docker is a single company project. It is not owned by a foundation. Foundation 
owns Open Container Initiative.
Kafka is apache. Commercial Kafka is Confluent Platform Enterprise. For the 
same reason why there is no Hadoop in Cloudera EDH or Horton HDP

Apache trademark policy is similar to LF. It is actually more extensive and 
restrictive then LF.

Greg




From: Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Ashish Ranjan 
<aran...@live.com>
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:19 PM
To: Nachi Ueno <nu...@juniper.net>, Randy Bias <rb...@juniper.net>, Robert 
Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish

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From: Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Nachi Ueno 
<nu...@juniper.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.

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From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
<rob...@raszuk.net<mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA&m=5ZFGzZiZpKyzy_icDopyHBbyzQDA2u-m2oBuxWkoG8c&s=8-Dos0M5o_oo5UMvxqLKv-KsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D-253Chttps-3A__urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fen.wikipedia.org-5Fwiki-5FNatt-2D25C5-2D258D-26d-3DDwMFaQ-26c-3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-2Dndb3voDTXcWzoCI-26r-3Dcvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-2D8RUttsFy-2DiNDV0QCxFA-26m-3D5ZFGzZiZpKyzy-5FicDopyHBbyzQDA2u-2Dm2oBuxWkoG8c-26s-3D8-2DDos0M5o-5Foo5UMvxqLKv-2DKsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M-26e-3D&d=DwMFAw&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=VQrMBvKeploIeBocya36pOwODBVDvmbjFqFgowqJuhs&m=jKu4ZgCW6bi6yL6XL7JZuw3oXxma5hXnhV-bymKVY3I&s=H-QGUOJ9Fa8xZrLyvJkj5O-sQ6rxTrhhT06ZaDbpqBQ&e=>>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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