-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 12/06/2014 02:39 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: > > This is exactly what the 1% want us to think, and this is exactly what > make them run. > *** May I suggest you read Heather Marsh's latest article on "How we came to be ruled by Death Eaters"? It's part of a series that blasts mirrors of illusions about our society is run and built. That one is particularly interesting regarding the trade economy.
https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/how-we-came-to-be-ruled-by-death-eaters/ > By refusing money we refuse that system, we get out of the 99% and the > 1% > *** I know one person who lives by refusing the system entirely: not using money, and not using government-sanctioned documents. He lives well, but I didn't hear him mention traveling outside Europe. He may not use money, but I've seen him mention Bitcoins, and using a laptop and a smartphone. As far as I know someone, at some point, had to exchange these items with money in order to have them end up in his hands. Money is not the issue. As Heather puts it: "Trade economy replaced societal approval with approval based on each person’s ability to be of service to the powerful. The trade economy eventually interrupted almost all social relationships and replaced them with industry. Social approval was replaced with currency to the point that a person’s worth is now commonly given as a currency value. Currency is a powerful seductive tool because it allows acceptance into the most privileged spots of all societies with no effort required to gain social approval or accept the norms and values of the society." I mostly lived the last 5 years without income, without paying rent, without buy much more than the necessary for survival. I was very happy last year to be able to upgrade from a Thinkpad X31 from 2000 to a newer machine. I paid this machine with money. Without the money, I couldn't have virtualization capability on my laptop, and that would certainly impede my freedom to learn and improve my skills, and contribute to the community I'm a part of. Aurélien, I would be very surprised if you connected to the Internet without money, and absolutely flaberghasted if your ISP would connect to the Internet without money as well. Honestly, you should consider getting your feet back on the ground and do like Stallman did when there was only corporate non-free software: he used what was available to steer towards software freedom, and did not start by trying to obtain binary results from paper and ink. > We Prove them that another running solution is possible at top > technological level. > *** Please inspire us. Do you have land to cultivate? Maybe people can join you there. > Money is not so old in the history of humanity and if the things don't > goes right before, the first day we have build temple of money, world > goes more and more in disorder. > *** I urge you to read the article mentioned above, that I translated yesterday at https://medium.com/pour-la-plus-belle/comment-nous-en-sommes-arrives-a-etre-diriges-par-les-mange-morts-f8ab9fe0be6b . You will find similarities with your point of view. But solidarity is more important than rejecting money outright IMO. If you can find a way to do all without money, good, but Internet (still) requires money to work. Tabula Rasa is not an anarchist concept, it was a reaction to Feudalism. The anarchist does not come from Heaven, pure and holy, but raises from the mud, with what's at hand and the resolve to realize freedom for all. There's no comparison between using a lever to unstuck wheel from the mud, and using the same wheel to crush people. Doing the former does not necessarily mean you will do the latter. > Do what need to be done because you care about. > *** Hopefully that is not incompatible with accepting donations. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUhFbxXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9B5MQAIGYcUMSTGSPFraY2qMUDs6E ZB36FPlJHjQr2THKMprY1ZjU72K0Rp2xlGaU5lfaiHd7B5iQQIwTlpunYj+6qRG1 ZSRromKOpLU3iAcP9b4rgfytOuulOTHGuguErmu8exnYqZSwX3Hs+LIuYogEtqSg nkUu/OH0BeFRrldmx8wKF5kf3a0Kjql7Qt0BX9x4v8wEk2JOIH/d1N9GybGxqD+2 QMoDrQoM6SEM7aEQ03oNVQNdIWngSqSR+oMAyt/RQrkrV8H73zrnlRkTZ9WZVnGR qCkSHxTNqwvtqNTlNpY9k0UP3vim57UgRsEtEKCmODF3/S9lCAQh4vWgxhl7gQYm JJpn0oMpFhp+fFwPjoFLPncJI2ateD0KNJ/xVMgu/IfMlnw7mNk9bUjNcfhpqvQK THutM+sukupJ9v0BlhT3gQVlaVhlgP3bqmiveSe9mF1cxX2gpdWzbGRJQVcZy6Wy sAoFzF+/gMtRaTiUqnyrv2e49pq/cfC8ZdDg9YqKzxKYCK6J5Ld2MUdNSzPRWYUC q0eZWcPaQLp8JQvZa80W2Z3ApE+/03OpeyL+qeChoEbY2OWTDv/yll4TeRskp1eZ HMwLPiNGou5/dXjQ+Esvi5CEpkidKiBfy7qij6675cpBTgFrDshGvGffpKPvuEu4 szq9amiFC20GDQQYSv0S =dSJl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
