hellekin writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 02/09/2015 07:54 PM, André Silva wrote: >> On 02/09/2015 07:30 PM, Nicolás Reynolds wrote: >> >>> ehr... sorry, i pressed the wrong emacs combination :P >> >>> what does everyone think about creating a list for parabola+ceata >>> communications, where everyone can read but only the delegate and >>> ceata can post? this, of course, to provide transparency in our >>> communications, and if someone wants to write any participant they >>> can do so in private, but it won't be an official communication. >> >> >> +1 Good idea! I agree because it provides a transparency communication >> for us and gives to the community a way to propose our ideas. >> > *** I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to promote "transparent > communication", and I certainly don't think it's relevant to advancing > the issue at this point. If the current proposal is accepted, fauno > will be the delegate, and how this is handled is an implementation > detail. Decision first, then implementation. > > If you insist on implementation, I'm for accountability, not > transparency, and certainly not to "everyone". It's important *for the > community* to be able to access tracking documents, but not for the > public. It's important *for the community* to be able to access > tracking documents *if necessary*, but having random people lurking and > bikeshedding at every step is going to wear out the delegate quite fast. > Accountability and TOFU. Privacy and freedom. Not transparency and > the tyranny of structurelessness. > > The delegate should come to the community with: > > - - understanding of the need of CEATA > - - a proposal to satisfy that need > > The community should provide the delegate with a clear response: > > - - yes, it's fine > - - yes with patches > - - no > > The delegate should go back to CEATA with: > > - - no, that need cannot be satisfied, but > - - with such and such changes it would work, or > - - yes, let's do it. > > This last step is what needs to be accountable but opaque. The details > of the communication between the delegate and CEATA are irrelevant to > the process that is public otherwise. It's important to have a record > of it, but the role of a delegate is exactly to avoid having many voices > raised during a conversation. > > More importantly, it's a recipe for disaster. While you give attention > to this, you're not working on your own tasks. The goal is to deliver a > distro, not to micro-manage the delegate. > > My $0.02 > > == > hk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJU2bb+XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w > ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 > ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9Nq0P/0aYOXFyb+pfWAgwQKwL4vJi > 1kwUb5+gLTYU+B5u8CCcBeLSvVQsrfbSiBX5WszcIGp+CtXPY7oftdleFxE6OUzq > eAnYGDoch+nayxEt0SE7PqMysaURfas3PYOeD/j89REIM5yRU6ptKBDB5STznmfD > Prn1axO/KLF3X+zpr2khaxeXrvmr1GrENgDy6DM1s8Hdn5kdpNsZ2zVq3tTg03x0 > gqA9hh1DGR8nhr0K+zbExx69MGVsHkHNBREvuXY5inc7RetkVk0Wq/jCH3kGKuvG > Zqm3RGl7nxzSug/zY6fBhS2eIUIimIhcb4X+0wdbT+stFIZAvRbWkgftp3W0akvL > IfXEU5r5qsdNfyDUbrkj0ZtolKlxJ0CgCB/6iCY5uwbsdAHF5gcES0fyd+ibwvAy > ppnuqSAXAQA1HeHsvCmueGmHqKQ6CQL+EpEvtVLO3dM4mqbsQJkIAAVm72qvNxhc > OYoQgRH4D7yG5Zc67ZI4EOOnmzHkMw5p3OlKpHcnWXP86o9vxyCIsLSfERVOpKhk > qTZYKrN4r9JURw/V81pMkV+D8+tlN4jACB9cA3WNOvzBioyr1y77dRSXcFaEMQFC > 5pQIyVD2XjffiX3JPk1viiU1Wjb/r9ytxAlu4zO+WsXz/mh/8AHK361Qy4/vP9BB > e0wB9tWVceX5kjZdSK14 > =n3Wf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
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