On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:18:50AM +0200, Nicolás A. Ortega wrote: > > > > And for finish this mail, I think that many trolls and/or attention whores > > are subscribing to the maillist for simply make a whole mess for break the > > good relation between the Parabola Hackers, volunteers, artists and/or > > contribuitors. > > I would be very cautious about throwing around the word 'troll'. Too > often have I seen it used against someone simply in order to avoid > having to reason through their arguments. Yes, there are real trolls who > are extremely annoying, however this is not the majority of the people > in any community, but rather a small minority. More often than not > people simply have good intentions that are misinterpreted as bad by > those who disagree. Labelling opposing views as 'trolls' will not solve > any problems, and if anything will worsen the relationships of those in > the community, as they will become intolerant and stubborn with regards > to each other's opinions. > > I suggest we think carefully before deciding that someone's opinion is > not worth having a serious discussion. > > -- > Nicolás Ortega Froysa (Deathsbreed) > https://themusicinnoise.net/ > http://uk7ewohr7xpjuaca.onion/ > Public PGP Key: > https://themusicinnoise.net/[email protected]_pub.asc > http://uk7ewohr7xpjuaca.onion/[email protected]_pub.asc
I myself find it very odd that no one has even tried to come up with some counter-ideas to the subject matter in question. Some devs had some great ideas for Parabola's future. One can agree or disagree, but the attacks, the accusasions and the name-calling (yes, everyone can lose his or her temper now and again) just went too far, as if someone were just waiting for the right moment to finally throw some shit. They finally got their moment, it seems. But what happened to the ideas? What happened to the debate about the build server, the Parabola Store, the offering of services, the handelig of the donations et cetera? And what about the idea of supporting (financially also) the devs that are working day and night to keep Parabola up to date and therefor a secure and safe distro? Is it so darn difficult to accept (or to forgive) the eagerness and the passion of devs doing some brainstorming for the future of Parabola? What a few people call a coup and a secret society was in a fact a storm of ideas for the love of the community and for Parabola. Why is that so hard to accept? And even if one disagrees on how these ideas came to life, one cound have come up with some counter-ideas in a polite manner and in a good spirit of growth and development. Frankly I fear that it's too late now, and that this has done more harm to the devs in question than we'd like to think. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have one foot out and will seek an enviorment and a community where their ideas can be watered and grow with love and support so that they can do what they do best. And: They should be rewarded for it. For me the attacks and the accusasions instead of constructive counter-ideas says it all. And it's very sad for the future of Parabola. S > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
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